Template talk:Time measurement and standards

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Time related templates

Time is a pretty vast subject, and it's impossible (or, at least, very unwise) to try to group all of it into a single template. A cautionary lesson is the defunct Template:Culture of China. It ran on for hundreds and hundreds of links, but the articles were better served by a few interlocking templates, which they enjoy now.

My intent is to build a loose hierarchy of Time templates. There will a good deal of overlap, especially regarding calendars.

I have no absolute goal in mind for the templates, and expect Wikipedians to edit them to suit. A general goal is, of course, to make articles on Time more accessible and interrelated.

Some suggestions:

  • The Time Portal will display all the templates.
  • Don't duplicate Template:Calendars, which is very concise and useful, into another template. Calendar topics are bound to show up in several Time templates, but none should be a list like the one in the Calendars template.
  • Individual articles should preferably have just one, and no more than two or three Time templates. There may be exceptions, but the goal is to resolve clutter and confusion, not create it.
  • Let the Geology editors work out their own Era templates. This may well apply to other disciplines; it's enough to link to chronology and overview pages about time in various disciplines.

Cheers, Yamara 06:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Editing the template

I have no problems with edits to the template, including making the title bar match Wikipedia standards of capitalization for readers. This is all fine.

Please do not redirect to edit the template. It does not allow updates to reach all of the entries. -- Yamara 11:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Archaeology & geology

I'm removing the links to these major topics. They are about the past, but this template is primarily about measurement & standards. Other Time templates link to these articles where appropriate. See Portal:Time for all the templates. -- Yamara 11:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Time ball

Can one of the admins please add Time Ball to this protected template. It probably fits into the section with marine chronometer. Thanks Socrates2008 (Talk) 10:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Eliminate Pro-Islamic Bias please

Listing only the Islamic calendar, but not the Hebrew Calendar nor the Indian Calendar discriminates against these commonly used systems. Either include other common calendars, or remove the Islamic one. Wikiguy0812 (talk) 12:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)Wikiguy0812

New and Amend Pages

Could an administrator add to Measurement and Standards/Calendar the following;

Week
7 Day Week

And amend

Days of the Week to 7 Days of the Week

ta--Pnb73 (talk) 11:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done
  1. Week was already in the template.
  2. 7 Days of the Week is a redirect to Week-day names, which I've fixed.
  3. 7 Day Week is a redirect to Seven-day week, added.
In future, you need to use {{editprotected}} if you want to get an admin's attention. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Add the Annums

I've been looking for measurements of time greater than millenia and couldn't find anything. Eventually I found Myr which led me to Annum and I found what I was looking for. Why not list the different annum measurements in the "Calendar" section under 'day' 'week' and such and link them to that page? I'd do it myself if I were an admin. --IdLoveOne (talk) 00:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Better still: delete the Unusual in the Unusual units section & group all units together. In fact, move the [[:Category:Units of time|Units of time]] from Major subjects. Something like this.
(Code removed.)
This solves the problem of labelling units "unusual" (what's unusual here might be common over there). JIMp talk·cont 07:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

{{edit protected}} I see no objections so ask that the edit be made to group units of time together as suggested above. JIMp talk·cont 13:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

There seem to be an unnecessary number of line breaks - possibly because you have a small monitor and have adjusted it to look nice on yours. Would there be any objection to removing artificial line breaks and letting the browser break the line where it needs to? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

What I'd had in mind is grouping like units together (from second to fortnight we have all simple ratios, similarly with month to millennium & then the less common ones). But I think I might have been previewing it in a narrow window. Looking at it with normal width I see what you mean. I have no objection to the removal of these line breaks. JIMp talk·cont 18:48, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

It's looking good I think. Is there any reason why some of the entries are bold? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Can't see any reason for the bolding not to be removed. JIMp talk·cont 11:27, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I say they should be added, it's a logical next step after century, millennium... It's not a common measure of time used, but neither are many of the other things listed in here. Will somebody explain why they think annum doesn't deserve presence in this template? --I′d※♥※Ɵɲɛ (talk) 22:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Accessibility improvement

{{editprotected}} For WP:ACCESSIBILITY by visually impaired readers, purely decorative images should not link to their image pages and should not have alt text, as per WP:ALT. Can you please install this obvious sandbox patch to add "|link=" to the two purely decorative images that this template generates, and to remove the alt text from one of them? Thanks. Eubulides (talk) 08:16, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg DoneTheDJ (talkcontribs) 17:55, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Update to accessibility improvement

{{editprotected}} Due to a change in the MediaWiki software, purely decorative images now have to say "|link=|alt=" instead of merely "|link="; this is now documented in WP:ALT #Purely decorative images. Please install the obvious sandbox patch. Thanks. Eubulides (talk) 20:48, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Done, cheers,  Skomorokh, barbarian  22:04, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Marine sandglass

{{editprotected}} Please add Marine sandglass to this template. Biscuittin (talk) 16:23, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done  Ronhjones  (Talk) 19:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Portal Image

{{editprotected}} Can the portal image be updated from Portal.svg to Portal-puzzle.svg to match that used by the {{portal}} template. Thanks -- WOSlinker (talk) 12:04, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done JohnCD (talk) 19:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

various fixes

{{edit protected}} Please update code to sandbox version: [1]. Fixes: code, put in order, alpha, fx redirects (except one to a section). Thanks, --Funandtrvl (talk) 20:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Done Dabomb87 (talk) 23:49, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Remove the icon

{{edit protected}} As per the image as per WP:MOSICON Gnevin (talk) 15:31, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Crystal Clear action edit remove.png Removed — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:14, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from ClemRutter, 15 April 2011

Add Whitehurst & Son sundial (1812) to Horology

ClemRutter (talk) 18:42, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

The items listed appear to be general topics (such as "sundial" or "atomic clock"), rather than a specific sundial or clock. Is there a compelling reason why this article should be added to the template? I'm not very familiar with clocks and such, but this seems rather odd to me. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:50, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Indeed. While it may demonstrate a certain unique functionality, I don't believe the subject in question qualifies as a distinctly different sort of timepiece. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 10:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Stefan.loska, 31 July 2011

{{edit protected}}

Please add link Hebrew to the Calendar section

Stefan.loska (talk) 15:24, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --RL0919 (talk) 06:34, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from SteveMcCluskey, 7 August 2011

Please add ΔT to the section on International standards. It would probably fit best between the items UT and DUT1. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 17:25, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

SteveMcCluskey (talk) 17:25, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Done. Additionally, I asked the protecting admin to consider unprotecting this template. Ucucha (talk) 18:15, 7 August 2011 (UTC)







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