User talk:Dodger67

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Singireddy Harivardhan Reddy

Hi I noticed your disapproval for the article. Could I ask why this was not approved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivek vardhan reddy (talkcontribs) 17:01, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Gavin Farley submission

Hi I noticed your disapproval for the article. Could I ask why this was not approved. Could I also ask for direction with respect of referencing or content.


Auro-3D page adjustments

Hello Dodger67, thanks for your fast follow-up & comment on the page. I hope the changes made are to your satisfaction, if not please point me to the sections of the text that are still problematic, and I will do my best to resolve.

Thanks, Dvossen (talk) 14:28, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

UPDATE: Hello again, I would *really* appreciate some guidance in how to clean up this page. It gets rejected each time without any speficic feedback, and as a newcomer at Wikipedia I am at a loos on how to make the text fit the requirements. I have posed this question a few times on the webchat as well without any result. So please help me out here.

Thanks, Dvossen (talk) 14:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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TMSI Ottawa is the company that owns eQuinelle Golf Club, and we own the content that you've claimed as "copyrighted." — Preceding unsigned comment added by TMSI Ottawa (talkcontribs) 14:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

User:TMSI Ottawa That is exactly the problem, you may not use copyrighted material in a Wikipedia page - even if you own the copyright. You must rewrite the article in your own words. Another problem is that you have not used any outside sources such as newspapers and magazines to show that anyone outside of the organization itself even cares that it exists. Please see WP:CORP for further guidance. Besides the copyright problem the text you used was in any case completely unacceptable as it was a blatant advertisement, see WP:ADVERT for guidance. Wikipedia articles are supposed to be purely descriptive, no promotion of the subject is permitted. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:44, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Bad Things - do you know what happened here?

Hello, Roger - The history of this article says that you declined it today, but the pink box on the screen says that it was another editor. It was an abandoned Afc submission from last year, and I postponed its deletion so that content could be moved to the existing article. I used the script and it shows the appropriate postponement edit history. Did it really end up being submitted for review? I'm sure I didn't do it. Maybe the script is messing up? —Anne Delong (talk) 22:28, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Anne, yes I did decline it as "already exists" a while ago, no idea what the script is getting up to. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Glenn Neely Article

Hi Dodger67

I recently edited a page that you decline 6 months ago, but the page is not letting me submit again. Can you direct me as to why?

Thanks, GLePa GlePa (talk) 06:02, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi GlePa, at some point during your editing you deleted the Review templates - I have recovered them from the page history. When you're ready, the blue "Resubmit" button is waiting for you.
Having just read through the draft I think it would be much more viable as an article about Neely's investment "principle" rather than straining to be a biography of Neely the person - it seems we don't actually know very much about him - where was he born, what high school and college did he go to, what jobs has he had, is he married, does he like baseball, etc. are the usual type of details we expect to see in a biography - but all we know about this guy's personal life is his name and the year of his birth. If I was writing this I would drop the biography as the main subject and concentrate on the investment theory instead. You should also expand on the articles written about his method that you say have been published in various magazines - don't just mention them, summarize them, tell us what the articles said. BTW you should try to insert more WP:Wikilinks. Hope this helps. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:01, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Roger, thank you for your help. You have been the most informative reviewer that I have worked with since embarking on trying to increase the presence of this topic in the stock market in Wikipedia. I am going to try to dig up more bio information on this person and if that is still not enough, I will indeed switch over to concentrating on just getting a page for the theory. Again, thank you for taking the time and helping me.

GlePa (talk) 11:46, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

IDP draft

Hi I addressed all your comments. What is the problem now? Of course, one of the defining features of WIKI is that it can still be complemented/improved upon creation of an article. Idea here is to create a meangingful "seed" that can be elaborated on by various other Wiki-literate experts in the field.

Cheers, David P Minde (talk) 08:51, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi David P Minde - I might be able to help you if I knew what page you are referring to, please give me a link to it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:02, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

sorry, here is the link:

Many thanks! David P Minde (talk) 10:11, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi again David, I have done quite a bit of work on the draft, particularly converting bulleted lists to prose and converted inline external links to references and a few other tweaks. Take a look at the changes - use the History link to compare the before and after. If you're happy with it you should resubmit it (just hit the blue button). I will not be doing further reviews as I have done significant editing thus my neutrality is gone, so another reviewer will do it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:52, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks for your efforts! I like the amendments. Looks lovely! Cheers, David P Minde (talk) 13:14, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Kira Tozer

Hello. I've been trying to fix the issues with my draft on Kira Tozer. Could use your help on finding reliable sources on her. I couldn't find any other than the About Me page about her and her agent. - FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 00:08, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi FilmandTVFan28, I'm afraid I'm not familiar with celebrity media, I don't really know which sources are acceptable or most useful. Ask at the Entertainment Reference Desk, that's where the topic specialists hang out. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:49, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Olympic articles

Maxx Fordham has been name changing more Olympic articles. I have reverted them all just like you did for the same reasons. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 10:27, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi BabbaQ, could you please revert Summer Paralympic Games too - I've reached the 3RR limit there. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:37, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Nevermind, it's correct now, I see User:David Biddulph is also on board with this issue. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:45, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Rationale for Gladys Gladstone Rosenberg (submitted article)

Gladys Gladstone Rationale for Wikipedia

In the late 1940s, Salt Lake City, Utah became a regional hub of classical music. This happened when Maurice Abravenal became the conductor of the Utah Symphony, with the latter then hiring Gladys Gladstone Rosenberg (who used the professional name Glady Gladstone) as principle piano soloist. Soon Ms. Rosenberg was added to the music faculty of the University of Utah, subsequently becoming Chair of the Piano Department even though she had not graduated high school!

The Wikipedia article tells the story of how this woman, born into a family of modest means in Utica, New York, and again without a high school education, became a renowned piano soloist and much-respected teacher of generations of piano virtuosi.

The content is arranged chronologically:

o Winning Utica’s Curran Scholarship at age 15 in 1928 that launched her career o Studying in New York City in 1930 and then winning an important piano competition the next year in Newark o Her debut as a soloist with the Newark Symphony at Steinway Concert Hall in 1933. o Marriage in 1939 o Studying with the famed Artur Schnabel that same year o Meeting Maurice Abravenal in 1948, with Abravenal then hiring her as principle soloist o Giving concerts with the Utah Symphony and various Chamber Orchestras o Teaching at the University of Utah, subsequently becoming Head of the Piano Department.

The article closes with five deeply personal recollections from successful musicians on her impact as artist and teacher.

A book has been printed of recorded conversations between Gladys Gladstone and David Dalton. It is titled: Gladys Gladstone: The Musical Odyssey of a Jewish Gentile in Mormon Zion, Copyright © 2013 PSI Publishing, ISBN 978-0-615-84910-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msiegel108 (talkcontribs) 15:00, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Msiegel108, None of this has anything to do with the reasons why the draft is not yet acceptable. Please read the specific guidance that is linked from the review comments. If you need further assistance the folks at the Teahouse are very friendly and helpful. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:25, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for your comment re: priority of declines on the March backlog talk page. That's exactly what I was asking -- where G11-style, irredeemable spam fell on the list. I'm relieved. I thought I was missing something. Julie JSFarman (talk) 23:25, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for the info regarding my submission. I am working on improving my references and citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eskayel (talkcontribs) 23:49, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Request for clarification

I submitted an article on Earth's surface energy budget, regarding which you wrote: "This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research. Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner."

The sources I cited are textbooks, so I don't understand the second sentence: can you please clarify?

As to my non-encyclopedic manner (style), this is my first submission and I understand it may take some practice to achieve the expected tone. However (a) there is no existing entry on this important topic (b) what I've written is correct and comprehensible, albeit only a starting point (c) anyone is free to rewrite it in any manner they prefer. Thus, and respectfully: why impede it merely on style? JayDee.UU (talk) 18:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

HiJayDee.UU, I'm sorry, unfortunately I am just off to bed now and I'm leaving on a trip early tomorrow. I probably won't be back on here before Sunday evening my time. Meanwhile you can ask for help at the AfC Help Desk, the editors there will be able to advise you on fixing the problem. Basically you wrote an academic essay, a good one, but the style is completely unsuitable here. BTW Anyone is not free to rewrite it in any manner they prefer, just like scientific journals, Wikipedia has a manual of style. One of the most obvious problems with your text is that you used the first person, Wikipedia is written strictly in the third person. Apologies for not being able to help you further now, but I have full confidence in the help desk and your draft is definitely fixable. Goodnight, Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi Roger (Dodger67), hope you slept well. Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I was using the hand-holding "we" that is common in science writing. I've made a revision, and shall resubmit. There's no rush on this, so I'll await your further ideas. Best wishes JayDee.UU (talk) 22:19, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi again JayDee.UU, my trip was cut short, heavy rain and just lousy weather. I think a chat with the subject specialists at WP:WikiProject Meteorology would be useful to resolve the remaining issues. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:13, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK Nomination

Hi Dodger67, because you created the David Showell article, I listed you as one of the authors this DYK nomination: Template:Did you know nominations/The 1949 Sun Bowl Controversy, David Showell. Cheers, I am One of Many (talk) 23:44, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

  • Hi Roger, I wanted to let you know that I looked over your overall contributions to these articles and I felt that you should be included as an author in this case. Especially since there was no main author. If you believe I'm wrong in this judgement, I'll remove you as a co-author. --I am One of Many (talk) 16:54, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
    • Thanks I am One of Many, if you're sure I really did enough to earn it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
      • In my view yes. It looks to be a class project in which many of the authors contributed only a few edits. As far as I can see, they only edited this article and most if not all will not contribute again to Wikipedia. The original article did require a major decision to create a separate biographical article and both required editing. All of which you did, which makes you a legitimate author. Cheers. --I am One of Many (talk) 19:25, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Dcave1 submission


Is there any chance you could give me some pointers as to what I should include/omit from my article, or which parts caused it to be declined? I have read the WP:NOTHOW section you linked me to, but am not sure which parts of what I have written are unacceptable. I am hoping to write more articles for Wikipedia in this field of Engineering, so it would be good to understand where I'm going wrong early on! Thanks --Dcave1 (talk) 09:27, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Dcave1, I feel your article is a "borderline" case of WP:NOTHOW. It's actually rather difficult to draw a sharp line with "this is a NOTHOW violation" on one side and "this is an acceptable general theoretical discussion of method/technique" on the other. I have posted a request for specialist assistance at WT:WikiProject Engineering#Please help a draft article recently declined at AfC, please join in the discussion there. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Diuresis (merging multiple stubs)

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The site actually copied the content from Wikipedia, not the other way around. I am busy merging a number of stub articles, I hope this bot isn't going to get all excited every time I merge some content from each of the stubs. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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@Technical 13 and Kevin Rutherford - I didn't actually intend bothering AfC with this - but one of the editors who helped me create the template submitted it in my name. Apologies for temporarily increasing the backlog! I wonder why two versions got submitted and accepted? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:31, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
  • I edited it to work as it appears you wanted it to work, submitted it in your name, and reviewed and accepted it using the AfC re-write script which I submitted a feedback in the middle of my review which moved it to the wrong location. I'm kind of confused by the whole chain of events myself. — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 14:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Technical 13 Ouch! I feel your pain. It's a terribly convoluted way to move a page from Draft-space to Template-space. I've already used it and can report that it works perfectly! Thanks. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:48, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Engenas Lekganyane

I have deleted the redirect that was in the way and accepted the article. Can I leave you to consider (a) categories and (b) whether to add templates for any WikiProjects to the talk page? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:35, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi JohnCD, I'll get onto it in the morning, it's well past bedtime here and I'm just about to log off. Thanks for fixing it. Wikiproject Christianity and WikiProject South Africa come to mind as the most relevant. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:40, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Holden Brothers Travelling Circus (March 23)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.
Please read the comments left by the reviewer on your submission. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Weird, I did not think that you would get notified of this, so sorry about that! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:33, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi Kevin, do you think this was an error in the script execution or was my username in the submission template instead of the actual submitter's. Either way do you know if the real author also received this notification? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:21, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Dear Dodger67, I wanna express my sincere gratitude to you for your efficiency and kind-heartedness

Dear Dodger67, Thank you for review my article and get it published on wiki! You have done me a great favor! I know my article is still imperfect. I will continue to edit it.Your devotion to this meaningful volunteer job will be remembered. Just sincerely wish you all the best! Yours, Xiuyue Mindhunter333 (talk) 20:41, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Articles for Creation Diana W. Bianchi (medical geneticist)

Dear Dodger67, Thank you for your comments. Can you tell me which references were invalid, and why? Then I'll get right to fixing them! Sydneyraymond (talk) 18:29, 24 March 2014 (UTC)Sydneyraymond

  • @Sydneyraymond - Wow, do I have egg on my face! I made an error, a review comment meant for a different submission ended up on your draft by mistake, sorry about that. I have reverted my review. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:24, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Dodger67, and no worries. I'm sure you are quite busy. (talk) 20:28, 24 March 2014 (UTC)Sydneyraymond


@User:Dodger67 I did not propose its deletion. That was User:DangerousPanda. And i would like to know what you mean by less than stellar record.Makro (talk) 19:54, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/2014 5#Focus on Makro, and the deletion nomination is not going to succeed. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:07, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Epigenome editing

I have done the rquested history merge to repair the cut-and-paste move the article author did to put this into mainspace. I wasn't sure where to leave the merged article but decided that, since it hadn't been formally reviewed and Sarah had asked for comment from a WikIProject, it would be best put back in AfC. As far as I can see, the author never actually submitted it, but since s/he clearly regarded it as ready, I have added the "submit" template. I will explain what I have done and why to the article author. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks JohnCD, best to let the review process run its course. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:21, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/EGalletti/sandbox.

Can you help me get this article approved? I'm fine handing it over, if you have ideas on how to make it work? I'm not sure what I have done wrong. Nothing is copied from the website, so I don't understand why it's not getting approved. Please feel free to delete any information and post.

thank you for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by EGalletti (talkcontribs) 01:04, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm afraid you will have to contact User:Cindamuse as that is who had your draft deleted. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:18, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Fix redirect

Hi Can you help to fix a redirect? Union Defence Forces redirects to SA Army. Gbawden (talk) 10:32, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done The redirect now goes to the Union Defence Force disambiguation page because the United Arab Emirates military is also called the Union Defence Force. When linking to SA's UDF the link should be piped to Union Defence Force (South Africa). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:57, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Intrinsically Disordered Protein (IDP) and Intrinsically disordered proteins

Dear Dodger67: The history of the mainspace article indicates that content has been moved from the draft article (before it was move, when it was at Wikipedia talk) to the mainspace article. Would it then be logical to move the draft to mainspace and change it into a redirect to the current article? —Anne Delong (talk) 04:11, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

@Anne Delong - Why didn't I think of that? Sometimes I get the feeling you're the only genius at the funny farm! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 05:18, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Well, you would have had to have been nosily looking at the history of the mainspace article to notice the merging, which happily had a clear edit summary. Anyway, it's done; I'm not sure if it's the best title. —Anne Delong (talk) 09:58, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
The relevant WikiProjects can decide if the title is ok, our work is done. BTW the redirect should have been done with the merge, whoever forgot it has inadvertently wasted the draft writer's and our time. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:54, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I think a lot of editors don't understand about merge-and-redirect (I know I didn't for some time). It's surprising that the editor continued to work on two versions at the same time for some reason. Anyway, as you say, one more off the plate. —Anne Delong (talk) 11:15, 29 March 2014 (UTC)


Hi - Please help

What is wrong with the article?

Cheers Marc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fam Focke (talkcontribs) 12:41, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Fam Focke - Please read the review template "pink box" at the top of the page and follow the links (blue words) for further information and advice. BTW I don't know what article you are referring to but I presume it is a draft that I reviewed at Articles for Creation. If you need further assistance please ask at the Help Desk - the link in also in the "pink box". Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Please explain why the article for Rakesh Jain was disapproved.

Hi, Please explain why the article for Rakesh Jain was disapproved. He is a noted personality in Indian General Insurance sector. He is currently the CEO of Reliance General Insurance which is one of the leading general insurance companies in India. He has been quoted several times in media for his scholarly insights.

If there are format or content changes that need to be revised then we will act promptly.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rautmahi (talkcontribs) 04:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Rautmahi. The basic problem is that the sources you have referenced are all about the company. Apart from saying that Jain is the CEO they don't say much more about him. With these sources it would be much easier if you wrote the article about the company instead of the CEO. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:23, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Epigenome editing

You sent me the "been created" message for this, but I didn't actually write it - all I did was sort out the muddle when the actual author tried to post it by a cut-and-paste move, and then the original version got edited some more. As it had never been reviewed and Sarah had asked for comments from the WikiProject, I thought it best to put it back in the queue and add the "Submit" template. I thought I had set the parameter to show the original author as the submitter, but I evidently got that wrong. I have transferred the message you sent me to User talk:Kazi1111#Your submission at AfC Epigenome editing was accepted. No action required, just letting you know. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 09:29, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

@JohnCD Thanks. It's one of the things that should be added to the AFC "to do" list - make the "registered author" in the template more obvious. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)


You wrote:

First explain what this is all about before launching into the mathematical gobbledygook hieroglyphics

This sort of sarcasm ("gobbledygook hieroglyphics") damages your credibility. You wrote this on an article that was far more clearly written than many new mathematics articles. Often they use technical terminology clumsily and incorrectly and are made vague and imprecise by the omission of essential information. This article does not suffer from any of those problems. Probably the reference to Jensen's inequality would be lost on many secondary-school pupils, but nothing else would. It is certainly not true that the article would not be understood by those unfamiliar with the topic, since I understood it right away and I had no prior familiarity with either the concept that the article was about or the measurement of income inequality in general. Michael Hardy (talk) 04:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

@Michael Hardy - I can assure you it was not intended to be sarcasm at all. It was intended to be the reaction of a non-mathematician when being confronted with a bunch of formulas without a good introduction that places it in context. I see another editor has in fact agreed with my assessment and written just such an introduction. BTW A little more AGF and less aggression would help make your editing experience more pleasant - for yourself and others with whom you interact. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:11, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

. . . and now I'm startled to find you under the impression that that article is my own submission. I don't know what would make you think that. I've never submitted any article to AFC. Michael Hardy (talk) 15:14, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Reference improvements - are they acceptable?


Thank you for reviewing my AFC. After reading your comments and trying to understand the reason it was not approved, I've made several adjustments to the article. In your reasoning for disapproving the article, it was noted that references needed to be improved. I believe I've got the right formatting for references now and I've included more, which should improve my article's credibility. Would you please take a look at the article now ( when you have a moment? I understand you are busy and cannot reply immediately.

I would also like help understanding why similar articles have been approved, which do not have significant references, or any at all. Why is it that while I'm trying to create something by the rules and standards, other articles exist that should be rejected and deleted? A perfect example of a very similar subject is I understand that wiki is trying to keep information credible. But I do not understand how my article can keep getting rejected while articles with no credible references still exist. Do I need to delete articles that do not have any references? Can I add references to them to improve them?

I'm new to wiki and contributing, so please forgive my ignorance.

I appreciate your help in getting my article approved with credible content.

SimSoftRules (talk) 19:55, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I see that you've answered some other users questions. Is it possible for you to see the improvements I've made on my article ? Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. SimSoftRules (talk) 15:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi SimSoftRules, sorry I'm only responding now, somehow I missed this post. It looks like your referencing has indeed improved. I'm not sure why you say your draft "keeps getting rejected" when as far as I can see, it has been reviewed only once so far.
The fact that there are other articles with problems is not relevant to your article's approval. Most articles on Wikipedia have never been through a review process at all so finding the problems and fixing them is a never-ending process, one that you are definitely welcome to help with. I see the unreferenced on you found has already been tagged for the problem.
Getting back to your draft, some of the sections have no or very few references. Where did you find the lists of Customers and Standards? The Products section is also unsourced. If you add references fot these sections your draft will probably be accepted at itS next review. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

@Dodger67 - Thank you very much for your help. I've made the changes you have suggested. So now every section of the article has some sort of credible reference. Can you please look at the article one last time to see if there are any other improvements I may make? Thank you very much for your help and time. SimSoftRules (talk) 21:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

List of election candidates

Hi Dodger67 , Thanks for Review my submission .

A list of candidates for other political parties, contesting LS2014 were approved by Wikipedia : 1. UPA Candidates -,_2014 2. NDA Candiates -,_2014 3. Left Front Candidates -,_2014

In the same spirit, I have created the page for the Aam Aadmi Party. These elections end in May, and people are curious about name of candidates of all parties. That page would be modified to include, successful candidates, once the elections are over. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boneb12 (talkcontribs) 20:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

List of programs broadcast by Toon Disney

I need your help. There's a duscussion on whether List of programs broadcast by Toon Disney should be deleted or not. So far, there are two votes for keep, five for delete, and one for merge. - FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 02:09, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Confused about your rejection of Prestonpans article

Hi there - you just rejected my article about Prestonpans here - - and I'm a little confused. The information comes from The Register of the Great Seal of Scotland, the standard reference volumes for tracking baronies and land possession of this kind. Is it standard practice to reject an article because there is only one source? I've noticed other articles that only have one source, and so I'm unclear about why you rejected this. It's historical information without any political or interpretative leaning. Let me know what's going on here! Thanks! David Stambler (talk) 19:48, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

@David Stambler - Relying on a single source means that bias or errors in that source are not balanced out or even detectable. Try to find at least one more good source. The fact that other articles with only one source exist is not relevant - there are even articles with no sources at all! It just means nobody has got around to challenging them yet. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:42, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
@Dodger67 - OK - I'm working with the current baron and I'll try to get him to supply a few more references.... we have also been working with a few other official Scottish registers so I'll update the article and resubmit it and then let you know, OK? Thanks for your reply.David Stambler (talk) 07:50, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
@David Stambler - Excellent! I'm looking forward to a good read. (BTW you don't need to ping me on my own talk page, I get notified of all activity on it anyway.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:26, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

South African Special Forces

Equipment List:

Also - equipment taken from resources on AfricanDefence & Helmoed Heitman book on battle of bangui and recent defence review notes.

Regiment 5 was involved in battle of bangui:

Regiment 5 was involved in DRC deployed as party of FIB - confirmed by SANDU and African — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flash29 (talkcontribs) 21:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

@Flash29 - don't just tell me about those sources - add proper references to them in the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:30, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Submission for review was a mistake

Hi Dodger67. I am running a subject where the assignment for the students is to contribute to a single article. To avoid problems on the main article, the students are editing a sandbox page - Someone must have submitted this for review by mistake and you have declined it appropriately. However, the message that is now on the sandbox page declining the entry is slightly confusing to the students...can that be removed. When the class is finished we will upload the changes to the main wikipeida article. Cheers, Adam (Abarsky1 (talk) 04:57, 7 April 2014 (UTC))

@Abarsky1 Yes check.svg Done Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:16, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

South Africans who died fighting in World War I

I saw your help desk post regarding South Africans who died fighting in World War I. This source mentions "South Africa's 18,452 war dead." It might be for WWI and WWII. However, "museum in Picardy, north of Paris, to South Africans who died fighting in World War I."[1] seems to say the museum is for South Africans who died fighting in World War I. This one says empire casualties (dead, wounded, missing or prisoner) in WWII, "South Africa 28,946", so maybe the WWI number is 18,452 war dead. The website for the museum in Picardy may have the number published. More info, "In 1921, the first Comrades Marathon was held in South Africa to commemorate soldiers who died during World War I. This 56-mile race is now the world's largest ultra-marathon event, with 13,000 runners."[2] -- Jreferee (talk) 13:22, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Jreferee. So it seems the CWGC is not a good source for total casualty stats - I guess they probably only count the graves they are directly responsible for. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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title redirect

Thank's a lot for the cleanup at Yakub Khan Mehboob Khan. I have left this msg at the Talk page of the article too. My request is: Can the article have a Title Redirect to Yakub (actor)? I don't know how to do that. Thanks again. Kaayay (talk) 09:16, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Kaayay - I have already created the redirect Yakub (actor). Thanks for the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:21, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Physically integrated dance

Hi Dodger, I'm trying to diffuse cat:dance and wondering if you can help me. Can you take a look at Category:Dance and see if there's a suitable subcat for physically integrated dance? Thanks. Lambtron (talk) 20:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lambtron, I fixed it. Category:Physically integrated dance is already a subcategory of Category:Dance culture, which I believe is the best fit. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:21, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

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