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April 18

Collecting diffs at a user page

Hi, I like editing Wikipedia articles, and thus far have tried to avoid starting cases or complaints against other editors, because it usually just detracts from editing articles. However, I have encountered a particular editor who I may need to start a case about, perhaps an RFC/U or something like that. I will need to collect diffs, over an extended period of time, and my question is: can or should I use one of my user pages for that?Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:12, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

You can if you want. User pages are for anything and everything related to editing/using Wikipedia that you want! See also WP:UPYES CTF83! 00:20, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
See also WP:UP#POLEMIC. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:35, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
So I guess save it off Wikipedia! CTF83! 00:39, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks you two, for pointing me in the right direction. It says: "The compilation of factual evidence (diffs) in user subpages, for purposes such as preparing for a dispute resolution process, is permitted provided it will be used in a timely manner." Since I'm not sure how timely this will be, it would appear wise to save the diffs offline. That's a bit more inconvenient, but I can do it. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 00:44, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


Does Wikipedia have a function that allows the reader to have the page be read to them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:52, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

A very small selection of Wikipedia articles have spoken recordings available, which can be viewed at Wikipedia:Spoken articles. For the great majority of articles that don't have spoken versions, I recommend copying-and-pasting whatever content you want read to you into an online text-to-voice translator. There are plenty of websites or browser extensions online that can do this for you. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:15, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

photo question

Hi, how do I insert a photo? I see the picture gallery option, but not sure how to upload a photo in the first place.Mghovan (talk) 01:16, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

WP:UPLOAD CTF83! 02:31, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I am not an expert but I find this Wikimedia Commons Upload Wizard works quite well. With a few exceptions though you do need to make sure you own the photo (explained at the wizard page). Hope this is of some help. Cheers. Melbourne3163 (talk) 08:35, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Need help finding question I posted

On the science reference desk on april 12, I posted a question called "Do pet shop animals have worms or parasites" I checked back a hour later and someone had posted a response and then I forgot about it. I just remembered it now and when I tried to search the archives I can't find it. Can anyone help I want to see if there are more answers to it.--Tarhound21 (talk) 04:24, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

@Tarhound21: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Science/2014 April 12#Do pet shop animals have worms or parasites - Purplewowies (talk) 05:00, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

For future reference how do I find it myself?--Tarhound21 (talk) 05:44, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

If you put your user name into the archive search at WP:Reference desk/Archives, it gets you to this result. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:37, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
@Tarhound21: I clicked the "Archives" button in the sidebar and went to the month and then the day. If you know what day you're looking for, you should be able to find any page, even if it doesn't appear in the search engine. - Purplewowies (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Need help to update news portal.

Hi! I'm trying to update the news portal of India, can anyone tell me if the current changes are proper and according to the code of Wikipedia. I also wanted to know that how often i have to add news events on that page.--Saurabh.agrawal92 (talk) 06:22, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

james kilfedder

James kilfedder is buried in roselawn cemetery Belfast not whitechurch as stated in article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:23, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I've corrected the article in question. Remember that Wikipedia encourages you to amend information like that yourself, though it should be with a reliable source. Valenciano (talk) 08:10, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


hey I bought a product online and it was defected I wish to file a complaint but the online provider has deleted the details wit pics from his site is there any way I can retrieve this info — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:01, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Symbol move vote.svg This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. CTF83! 10:03, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Column alignment

At Tennis players with most titles since 1968 how do I left align the Country column in the two tables while leaving the rest of the table columns to its current center alignment?--Wolbo (talk) 09:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

If a table has columns with different alignment then each cell in the column must be aligned separately. For example, replace {{USA}} by align="left"|{{USA}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:48, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Really? That's unworkable. Strengthens my opinion that the table functionality is in dire need of a major overhaul to make it more intuitive and user-friendly. Anyway thanks for the answer!--Wolbo (talk) 13:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
It's a html limitation but it would be practical if MediaWiki had a feature to specify a column property in one place and the software then automatically copied the code to each cell. We do have template features so you could make a Help:Table#Row template which could also have a simple parameter to specify the property determining the rendering of the first column. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:22, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

"self harm" article

the self harm article has a picture of self harm right at the top of the page and it is very triggering. seeing images like that will give me (and many others) the urge to hurt themselves. if you could either remove that image or put something like... a thing you have to scroll over in order to reveal the image? that'd be great.

the only reason i was even on the article was for a school project and yeah i'm not feeling very good now — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:11, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi there - sorry the page is giving you trouble! Wikipedia has a policy of being uncensored, which means that there will always be content that readers may find objectionable or offensive. As long as the objectionable content (including images) is relevant and appropriate for the article from an encyclopedic standpoint, it will remain. I recommend checking out 'Help:Options to hide an image' for a number of ways to hide and prevent yourself from viewing images you don't want to see. Hope this helps, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 11:39, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Cahora Bassa

The location map to the article of the German version article looks really cool and is ionformative. I wonder, if somebody could organise for this happening in the local version here. Cheers, OAlexander (talk) 10:20, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

File:Mozambique relief location map.jpg is in Commons, so you can use it here in enwiki. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:01, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I have added Template:Location map.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:40, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much! Highly appreciated, looks good. Cheers, OAlexander (talk) 15:46, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata interlinks to 2 articles?

Hello, how to deal with the issue when a wikidata item corresponds to 2 different articles in a particular language? For example, the pomegranate item is only linked to the french article of the tree (Grenadier). Is it possible to link it to the fruit article (Grenade) as well? Because now this article has no link to the the other languages (except one). Boulbik (talk) 12:17, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

A serious limitation of Wikidata is that it can handle only one-to-one correspondence. For other links you'd need to return to the previous method of Interwiki linking. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:57, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer. So, since it would be replaced by the old interlinking method, the other wikidata item associated with the pomegranate fruit can be removed? Boulbik (talk) 13:17, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


I made an update on a page of polo players with a +10 handicap but my addition is not showing...reason? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orchid123 (talkcontribs) 15:05, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

The page history [2] shows five edits by you, but the fourth reverted the third so the third is no longer showing. If an edit doesn't show for you then you may have to bypass your cache. If you still have problems then please be more specific about what you don't see. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:25, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I see you modified two articles: [3] and [4]. Maybe you were looking at the other one? Boulbik (talk) 15:45, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Missing archives at Talk:Book of Exodus

The archives for Talk:Book of Exodus aren't accessible from the talk page. There are red links for Archives 1 and 2 and the history shows an Archive 4, which exists. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:06, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

@Dougweller: was it caused by this [5] page move? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:10, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
No, it seems the archiving was set up incorrectly from the start in this and other talk pages.[6] Maybe the editor copied archiving code without knowing how to adapt it. I don't have time to investigate more now. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:35, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
There is only one archive. I have moved the archive to the correct name and fixed the talk page.[7] I also fixed another error in the above contributions link. The other errors had already been fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:44, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I couldn't find any evidence of any other archives, weird that it was named 4. Your help is much appreciated. Dougweller (talk) 21:03, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
Before this edit to User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo, it was rather easy to set up archives starting at number 4 by mistake. I've done it myself. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:18, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Please help me for increase the Google+ circle

Please help me for increase the Google+ circle ,

You've reached the maximum number of people that can be in your circles at this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faheemjamil1979 (talkcontribs) 18:46, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:50, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Article name

This article hasn't an English name: Нехристь. Should we move it? --Zyma (talk) 18:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

since there is no evidence that it meets the criteria for a stand alone article, I have just converted it to a redirect as a possible search term. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:03, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I agree with you. --Zyma (talk) 22:59, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Too similar to the following username

I am trying to create a new user as forgot password is not sending me a link to a temporary password, but I am getting "Too similar to the following username" why is this system in effect? It seems quite stupid and the username I am picking are nothing like the "similar" ones. -- 19:23, 18 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

It is in effect to prevent confusion from two people having account names that are too similar. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:25, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
It's impossible to evaluate when you don't say the usernames but you can make a request at Wikipedia:Request an account. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:48, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Cannot log in

Hi, Apparently my username was saved in Wikipedia, but I never got a verification email to finish setting up my account. Please help. Many thanks! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:24, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

You don't need an email to log in. At account creation you choose a password which works right away. What is the username? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


Q1. Who is there to consult with if I have Qs re terms of an IBAN?

Q2. Who is there to consult with if I have problems and issues with an administrator's behavior?

Ihardlythinkso (talk) 21:28, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

For the first issue, I'd recommend asking at the administrators noticeboard. For the second, follow the dispute resolution process. You can bring up admin issues at the administrators noticeboard or the incidents subpage, but your actions will also be subject to heavy scrutiny. Usually, following the "proper" dispute resolution process is more successful. --NYKevin 23:20, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

references unavailable

I've recently started working for Morrow Mountain State Park. Our page has boxes before some segments pointing out that no references are provided. I can't find any sources to site; info all comes from Morrow Mountain State Park staff. What is the correct way to proceed? Is this one of the rare occasions where it would be appropriate to use the Park's email address as the reference? Thank you. Davidbriggs77 (talk) 22:14, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

It would be preferable to find secondary sources to support the article. Wikipedia generally prefers secondary to primary sources in most circumstances anyway. Are you saying there are no secondary sources at all? --NYKevin 23:26, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Generally not. For uncontroversial factual data it is sometimes acceptable to use primary sources, but if a section cannot be supported by independent references it probably shouldn't be in the article at all. Certainly a great deal of the information in Morrow Mountain State Park is not encyclopaedic and should be removed (for example, in my view, the whole of the sections "Attractions" to "Trails" should be condensed to one or two paragraphs). In any case, you should not be editing the article at all, as you have a conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 23:33, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

April 19

Adding from own work

I would like to add some text from own work (which I've published before on the internet) to Wikipedia. I reckon I don't have to add on my blog that I've copied something from Wikipedia after that. What is the right procedure to follow to make sure there no one can complain about copyright issues? Kind regards, Timelezz (talk) 00:59, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

The guidelines are here: Wikipedia:No original research. Mlpearc (open channel) 01:30, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Read donating copyrighted materials, make sure you fully understand the consequences (in particular, this is irrevocable and will allow others to use your work in things other than Wikipedia), and then follow the instructions. --NYKevin 01:34, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
But unless the material on your blog is already encyclopaedic, referencing reliable published sources and not presenting any new arguments, conclusion, or synthesis, then it is not appropriate for Wikipedia anyway, as Mlpearc said. --ColinFine (talk) 10:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing me out to the guidelines. Yes, I was asked by my tutor to write a piece about the history of wind mills which did not make it in my final paper. It's written as I would write an encyclopedic article. No own research, but repeating literature. Kind regards Timelezz (talk) 11:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
If it was not published in some independent third-party venue with editorial control and standards, it is not a reliable source and cannot be used here. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:28, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

User removing referenced statements from articles without justification

I and another editor wrote to User:Mkonji128 regarding the user's removal of referenced statements from articles without reason earlier (and no edit comments). Somewhat heeding our concerns, he re-removed the statements adding edit comments that they were "inaccurate." On the user's talk page I've asked if the user could provide sources showing these are inaccurate. Most of the edits seem to contradict a NPOV (i.e., have a pro-US military view). I've also written on the article's talk page. What should I do with these *referenced* statements that have been removed. What is the best way to act on this. I'm concerned that by excluding these statements the article is much more biased than it was previously. Should I report this somewhere specific? Thanks for the guidance. Computermacgyver (talk) 09:19, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

You've done the right thing by engaging with the other editor. At some point it may be appropriate to take it to a noticeboard, but please make sure you've exhausted the earlier stages in dispute resolution before you do so. --ColinFine (talk) 10:59, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay to remove notice after editing page?

Newbie here. If I respond to one of the Help Out requests on the Community Portal, and I believe that I've fixed the problem indicated, should I remove the tag at the top of the page to indicate that it's no longer a problem, or will the person who created the tag review the page and decide whether to remove it? Thanks. OlyBin (talk) 09:48, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

If you believe a tag on a page is no longer appropriate (whether it was you that fixed the problem, or somebody else, or even that you don't agree that there is a problem) you are welcome to remove the tag. It's best to leave an edit summary making clear why you think it is appropriate to remove it. If somebody disagrees with you, they should open a discussion with you on a talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 11:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

delete a page

i have inadvertantly set up a page with my name and not the name of my company. how do i delete it and start afresh? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hugo Chandor (talkcontribs) 09:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Hugh Chandor. I'm not sure what page you set up: your account has no edits apart from this one. But you should first read conflict of interest, to understand why you are strongly discouraged from writing an article about your company; and then if you want to proceed, look at your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 11:05, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
I think they meant that they created an account (their term: page) with their own name instead of that of their company. Wikipedia does not allow user names that are the same as a company's name due to the promotional nature of those names. See WP:USERNAME for more on that. And yes, you should also familiarize yourself with our conflict of interest policy mentioned previously by Colin. Dismas|(talk) 14:14, 19 April 2014 (UTC)



Yes check.svg Done. That was some 2010 vintage vandalism by, which has now been removed. Thanks for your vigilance! By the way, could you please leave the caps lock off? Its use is discouraged by WP:SHOUTING. Favonian (talk) 12:36, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Preferences: Connected apps

I want the list of those apps. What are they and how should I use them? Thanks. --Zyma (talk) 13:51, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

See MW:Special:OAuthListConsumers. How to use them is up to the application author. Many of them are on MW:Wikimedia Labs. SpinningSpark 16:52, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Okay. --Zyma (talk) 09:21, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Is it Plagiarism?

The article on Rosephanye Powell seems to have become infected with wording from the author's website. This happened down in the history a little way and should have been reverted at the time. Is there a department that evaluates this kind of thing? Is there an easy way to sort it out, or does it just have to be rewritten to eliminate the common wording? Pkeets (talk) 14:34, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

P.S. I've recently noticed students working in Wikipedia as part of school assignments who view the subject's website as a convenient source of information for expanding articles. Is there someone in charge of this program? If so, are guidelines clearly posted that mention the subject's website isn't the most appropriate source? Pkeets (talk) 15:48, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Presumably, if it's for a school assignment, they'd have a class in the Education program's course list, with a teacher and perhaps ambassador defined. You could talk to the student and bring up appropriate Wikipedia policy (even classes are required to follow it). If that doesn't work, there may then be the option of asking the teacher or ambassador to communicate the info to the student in person. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:14, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
It will be impossible to handle this on an individual basis. The additions are often well down in the history before they can be discovered. (Note my question above on what to do about Powell's article.) Plus, I gather that school assignments or sponsored sessions is an increasing effort, especially through edit-a-thons to increase the number of women editors in Wikipedia. It would be much easier to provide clear guidelines on how the articles should be edited in these cases. Pkeets (talk) 18:04, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
I had a look at the Education program page and see that it recommends expansion of stub articles. This is the source of some of the problem. Stub articles are often that way because there is little information available through secondary sources. Copying and pasting information from the subject's website isn't the way to expand them, and this should be pointed out in the guidelines. Who's in charge of the way that page is written? Pkeets (talk) 18:11, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Here's another example of an article expanded through additions from the subject's website. This one is definitely a student editor. The obvious solution is just to revert the changes, of course. Pkeets (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
In cases of policy violations, I'd do what I'd do with any other editor: revert and warn. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:44, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Once it's down in the page history this affects later edits. It would be better to deal with the problem proactively. Pkeets (talk) 23:17, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
There is a lot of advice on how to deal with these problems at WP:DCV. That should answer most of your questions. What to do in individual cases has to be assessed on a case by case basis. If the copyvio material can easily be edited out, then do that. If not, it may be necessary to revert back to the last clean version, possibly putting back some of the good information by hand. SpinningSpark 01:18, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
So, shall I consider the subject's website an okay source for expanding a stub article, or just delete all the additions? That's what it boils down to. I have a bunch of articles on my watch list, and I'd really rather not have to constantly rewrite them to remove info from the subject's webpage. Pkeets (talk) 16:59, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Column width help


I need help with the width of columns on the list found at Deportation_of_Armenian_intellectuals_on_24_April_1915. I want to make the "Fate" column a tad bit smaller. Also, I want to make the "First place of Deportation" column much smaller. I want to do this to make other, more important columns, wider (i.e. notes, occupation). Please, be gentle with this article when editing, it's currently nominated for FL. Thanks, Étienne Dolet (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

I have enabled the "Fate" and "First place of Deportation" columns to be more narrow with some soft hyphens.[8] PrimeHunter (talk) 20:52, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Category:Lists of television characters

I hope that everyone don't mind that I've diffused the category Category:Lists of television characters. I just want to be helpful. Hope that's okay.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 20:43, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Cannot view Changes on mobile telepnone

Can one view the details of changes (diff) on the mobile version? All I can see is that there was an edit made that changed the article.--Woogie10w (talk) 22:24, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you can. The diff of your edit to this page for instance. However, I don't know any easy way of finding the diffs on the mobile version. I got to it by apending "?action=history" to the url, and from the history one can select a diff. Unfortunately the history page reverts to the non-mobile version and is a mess on a mobile device, but still usable. SpinningSpark 23:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Well, I figured it out. I had to clear out my Chrome browser, go to Wikipedia on my mobile and click "desktop" a the bottom of the page and then sync my home computer to my mobile. In any case Wikipedia needs to allow the option to switch between the mobile and desktop versions without rebuilding Rome. --Woogie10w (talk) 11:04, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

April 20

Show/Hide option

How do I add a show/hide option for something? I plan to add a large table to a page and I want it to be hidden to start with, with a show/hide link at the top. Something like that is done on the Google Chrome page and I've looked at the source, but I can't figure out what controls it. Can anyone help? Kookiethebird (talk) 00:31, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

See {{collapse}}. An alternative is {{collapse top}} and {{collapse bottom}}. SpinningSpark 01:25, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
That looks really useful, thanks. Kookiethebird (talk) 02:23, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
@Kookiethebird: You may also find the "collapsible table type beneficial. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:30, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Can't find a useful source

I thought about asking this on the resource exchange board, but that seems to be more for getting behind paywalls than tracking down sources. Anyway, I've been searching for the Act 167 Stormwater Management Plans, which seem like they would be useful on writing articles on streams. I've managed to locate this list of streams with Stormwater Management plans, but I can't find any list of the plans themselves. It would be great if someone here could figure out where I can find these. Thanks. --Jakob (talk) (Please comment on my editor review.) 01:16, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I would think that WP:REX was the ideal place to track these down. I suspect that there is not one central depository and the plans are held by the individual local authorities. For instance, I found the Dauphin County Plan on this page of the Dauphin county website. Googling it seems to show up several more likely links. SpinningSpark 01:42, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
@Spinningspark: Well, thanks, but I was actually looking for something more like this ; i.e. for an individual creek. --Jakob (talk) (Please comment on my editor review.) 12:00, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Editing the title of an article

Is it possible to edit the title of an article? A friend has asked me to change the title of his page. The title includes his middle initial, which he does not use professionally. He would like only the middle initial removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Andrea Bruce (talkcontribs) 01:47, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

See Help:How to move a page. Or, if you tell someone here the name of the page, perhaps we can help you with it. If you have a link to a reliable source we could read for ourselves which shows the correct name, that would be good as well. --Jayron32 02:05, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Looking through User:Dr. Andrea Bruce's contributions, I'd say she's referring to Eugene L. Daub. Dismas|(talk) 02:16, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
And after consulting Daub's official site, I've moved the article to the title without the initial. Dismas|(talk) 02:21, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Screen shots

Dear editors: At times when helping to debug new scripts it would be handy to provide a screen shot to the script developers. What is the usual way to do this? I know how to take a screen shot and save it as a JPEG file, but where should I post it? —Anne Delong (talk) 02:42, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

It depends what sort of scripts these are. If you are talking about template code, then either the template talk page or the author's talk page. If you are talking about a Wikimedia Labs application then contact the application developers (I thought I'd seen a table with this information somewhere on Wikimedia but I can't find it right now, someone on #wikimedia-labs connect chat channel should be able to help you with that information if you need it). If you are talking about scripts that are part of the Wikimedia software then Bugzilla might be the right place. Remember when uploading screenshots to Wikipedia or Commons that they might contain Wikimedia logos which are copyright. These are not covered by the CC licence. You can still upload them if you add {{Copyright by Wikimedia}} to the file licence. SpinningSpark 13:34, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry; I think I didn't frame my question clearly. I should have asked, where should I upload it? If I understand your reply correctly, I should upload it at Commons, after making sure that no copyright logos are present. I guess the file can always be deleted after it's not needed any more. Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:05, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
You can upload to either Wikipedia or Commons. Personally, I would not upload to Commons if the image has no relevance outside Wikipedia, ie, it is just being used in a discussion here. Commons do not normally accept non-free content, but they seem to make an exception for Wikimedia logos (provided the correct templates are present). SpinningSpark 19:44, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Need help with a video on the "Ames room" page

There is a video on the "Ames room" page demonstrating how an Ames room works. I used to be able to view it when I had Windows XP, but with Windows 7 I can't. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I need to do? Thanks.Grammarspellchecker (talk) 05:03, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I can view it using Windows 7 and Chrome. I suspect that your problem is not with Windows, but with your browser or its add-ons. Maproom (talk) 09:27, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Chief Obafemi Awolowo

I add some contribution about Chief Obafemi Awolowo using the edit and it not published. Is that not the appropriate way to add contribution on an issue published. I would like to know the better way to do this, because the fact need to be told to the public. We have being suffering in Nigeria because of his bad leadership and bad political foundation he contributed in laying down in Nigeria — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:30, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Your contribution to the Obafemi Awolowo article was removed by another editor, as unsourced. Any controversial content added to Wikipedia should be supported by references to reliable independent sources. Maproom (talk) 06:52, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

How to add map.

How to add map to my schoool article page at --- New R. S. J. Public School. There are 2 school building and i want to add map to both of them. Can anyone please make the map and add it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prathamprakash29 (talkcontribs) 07:05, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Nobody can make a map unless you provide the information to go on the map. If you can do this, you can make a request at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop. SpinningSpark 13:42, 20 April 2014 (UTC)


my reference

I want to put my references and it does mark in blue. I tried fixing and I got warning in red letters — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knurit (talkcontribs) 11:04, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

It was fixed, you needed to add {{Reflist}}, to get the references to show up. GB fan 11:55, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Adding the name of an author / expert to an existing article

I am trying to add the name of an expert / English translator to the Wikipedia page on Rumi but the page doesn't appear to have an 'edit' button. I'm logged in / registered user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmeddin (talkcontribs) 15:34, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Rumi is semi-protected. Wait until you are autoconfimed or place your requested edit on the article's talk page. --NeilN talk to me 15:39, 20 April 2014 (UTC)


I saw many people using Twinkle. How do I use it myself? My account is five months old if that matters. wirenote (talk) 17:02, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

@Wirenote: Tick the checkbox next to Twinkle listed at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets under the Browsing section. See WP:TW for details. --Glaisher [talk] 17:05, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. wirenote (talk) 17:13, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Binary Word Paintings.

I have developed a format for free form verse called Binary Word Paintings and I would like to know how I can post a definition of a Binary word Painting on the Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachkai (talkcontribs) 17:16, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

When the term has received significant coverage in a number of published reliable sources independent of the subject, then it may be considered sufficiently notable for someone to write a Wikipedia article about it, but that someone should not be you because your conflict of interest would make it difficult for you to maintain a neutral point of view. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:33, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Also note that Wikipedia is not the place for dictionary definitions. SpinningSpark 19:52, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

copy paste stories

Hiya, I copy paste created these stories James Boyd shooting - Alfred Redwine shooting from this story Albuquerque_Police_Department#See_also. I thought they would be deleted but they are still live, I think I have to post a notice on the talkpage saying where the story is copied from? Mosfetfaser (talk) 19:10, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Mosfetfaser, you can use Template:Copied. --kelapstick(bainuu) 19:18, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Ow cool , will do , ta kelapstick - Mosfetfaser (talk) 19:24, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit heading

how can i wrote about myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subhasis koley (talkcontribs) 20:31, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

On Facebook? SpinningSpark 20:49, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
If you are asking how to write a Wikipedia article about yourself, the answer is Don't. Please see autobiography for why you shouldn't. If you are asking about your user page (the page User:Subhasis koley, which appears as a redlink because it doesn't yet exist) you may write a certain amount about yourself on that page, but it should be mostly about you as a Wikipedia editor, not substantially about anything unrelated to your work on Wikipedia. Please see Userpage for more information on that --ColinFine (talk) 00:11, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Procedure for re-instating bio page

My bio page now redirects to an agency I ran in 2010/2011. How do I reinstate my bio page. Thank you Californiasecstate (talk) 21:34, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Where is your "bio page"? Who are you? Knowing only your username, it is hard to guess what article you are asking about. Maproom (talk) 21:42, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
It sounds from your description as if somebody wrote an article about you, and somebody else decided that there should not be an article about you and made it into a redirection page. If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for "notability" (which means that you - and not just your company - have been written about in multiple |reliable sources, independent of you and your company), then there may be an article about you. But you are strongly discouraged from writing such an article: see autobiography.
If there was a page about you which has been converted into a redirection page, older versions should be available in the history of the redirection page (pick where it says "Redirected from xxxx" at the top of the company page, and then pick the "history" tab). --ColinFine (talk) 00:17, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

April 21

File I uploaded but cannot find

I uploaded a picture and did not use it right away. I had wikipedia open in two separate browsers, one of which had the picture links and the other of which had the articles I was uploading into.

I closed the picture links browser and later found the article I wanted to upload the picture into but I can no longer find the link. I have previously tried to upload the same picture twice and had it rejected as a duplicate.

I would like to find the link to the other picture. I have tried looking in my uploads and contributions and it does not appear since I did not actually copy the link into an article. What can be done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Feddacheenee (talkcontribs) 01:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

The upload log doesn't depend on the file being used. Many files are uploaded to Commons which has separate logs from the English Wikipedia. Is it shown at commons:Special:Contributions/Feddacheenee? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:36, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Search within articles belonging to a WikiProject

Is there any way to search within articles belonging to a particular WikiProject? For example, could I find all articles containing the word "stem" whose talk pages belong to Category:WikiProject Fungi articles? (CatScan doesn't seem to search for text strings, and also handles articles separately to their talk pages.) Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 02:06, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I could do this for you with AWB, but I hope someone comes up with a better answer. AWB can create or import a list of the 10K articles in the category; and using the AWB database scanner I could create a list of the 25K articles that mentioned the word "stem", as of April 2nd, the date of my downloaded database dump; and AWB has a tool that can intersect two lists. Messy! -- John of Reading (talk) 08:16, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

How to expand?

Hi, can somebody point out to me how to expand, the bottom template, Atmospheric, oceanographic and climate models at, thanks. prokaryotes (talk) 07:18, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I have edited the template so that the "state" parameter now works. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:51, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

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