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June 15

how do I make corrections to a page on wikipedia

how do I make corrections or additions to a page on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.131.28.114 (talk) 01:07, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Step 1 - Make sure you have a reliable source for the corrected statement.
Step 2 - Make sure you write in a neutral way, and cite the source.
Step 3 - Edit the article, and correct the statement, and add the citation.

Be warned that it is not okay to use "your own knowledge" or "I know it" as a source :) Charmlet (talk) 01:22, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

When you have followed Charmlet's steps just press the edit button at the top of the article or on some headings. This will allow you to edit the page unless it has been protected in this case you will need an account. Falkirks^Talk 03:33, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Subtitle for marine species

Hello all, I am working on editing pages on marine species on the french and english version. I have faced issues with the french administrators regarding the common name of marine species to be added to the page. It was, so far, written on the top of the taxobox, but a (french) concensus recently decided that the taxobox should include only scientific names and not common names. The solution was then to add the common name as a subtitle of the page (exemple can be seen here: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryaninops_yongei).
This solution is fine since there are often more than just one common name per language and, most of all, that it uses a markup easily identified as being a common name (rather than just bold found in the introduction).
So, I would need to be able to do the same in the english version but I cannot find the right way to do it. If anyone could help me on that, I would be more than gratefull.
Thank you--BUWF (talk) 05:05, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I've never seen that on the English version and therefore don't think it's standard practice. Dismas|^(talk) 05:49, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

No, I don't think so either. I imagine there would need to be consensus before implementing such a change to Wikipedia's article naming conventions. - Ka renjc 07:10, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

The subtitle is created via a template: {{Sous-titre/Taxon}}; the actual page name is unaffected. I'd guess that any such change would need to be agreed to by WikiProject Biology, so perhaps the talk page there would be somewhere to start? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:14, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Editing problem: unrecognised characters

Editing help - calcium acetate page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_acetate I just corrected the melting point information for calcium acetate and added a reference, but when saved, the new temperature came up, followed by this: Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "" . I cannot see information for K and °F on the edit page, so am not sure how to solve this problem. TIA Taikobeat (talk) 08:26, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey Taikobeat. I took a look at {{Chembox}} and saw no parameter named "MeltingPtC=" in its documentation (even though it does have some functionality, apparently automatically added "°C") but it looks like trying to include a citation broke it, so I switched it to just "MeltingPt= and manually added the degrees. Take a look. Is the listing proper now?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:08, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

However, having now looked at the change you made from 160 °C to 400 °C, and looking at sources, they all seem to contradict the change, stating that 160 was correct, so I've change it back and added a different citation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Fuhghettaboutit. Thanks for solving the formatting problem. I would be grateful if you could confirm that you read the paper I cited before your latest edit. The TGA curve and Results and Discussion section showed 400°C, and the XRD data supported this. I also have several other published papers that give this figure. Please could you provide a TGA curve, or some other actual data (ie not just a number), that proves that calcium acetate melts at 160°C - I have not been able to find this data on the net. I was curious, so actually heated calcium acetate in the lab, but all that happened at 160°C was that it lost the water of hydration and became calcium acetate anhydrous. TIA Taikobeat (talk) 14:50, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Taikobeat - I'm sure you know far more than I do about chemistry. I only know that the article previously said 160, and after fixing the chembox display, I went to look at what sources say because 400 °C and 160 °C are so radically different—it's not like you were correcting a rounding error to something more precise. So upon looking I found that everything seemed to confirm the original number. I accordingly added what appears to me to be a very reliable source ([1]) upon reverting back to 160.

Now I note that this and other sources qualify "melting" to decomposition to acetone and CaCO₃ I don't precisely understand that distinction. Are they using "melting" loosely; that we are not talking about a change from the solid to liquid state but that "melting" is used as a term of art in chemistry to denote the decomposition point into another substances, even if there is no state shift? I don't know. I certainly can't argue from a knowledge standpoint with you on this topic and have no stake but to keep the encyclopedia proper. But on Wikipedia we follow the sources. Since you cite a source (which I don't have access to), I think it's best at this point to turn to people who actually know this stuff. Let me go post to the science section of the reference desk, laying out the issue, so that people with a background can hopefully comment.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science#Melting point of calcium acetate.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:58, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit, Thank you for posting my query to the science section. Sorry you couldn't access the paper, I thought it was open access at http://iopscience.iop.org/1742-6596/371/1/012075 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taikobeat (talk • contribs) 17:18, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank

How do I get rid of the stupid option to thank someone for their edit? CTF83! 10:40, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Preferences → Appearance → Exclude me from feature experiments.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:47, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Or see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 112#A couple technical updates if you want to keep other feature experiments. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:52, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

How do I get back to a page that I started editing

I can not find the page on Michal Rovner, an Israeli prominent artist, whose page I started editing some 10-15 days ago. As I intend to start a few new pages soon, I'll appreciate a general help on this issue. Thanks רסטיניאק (talk) 14:17, 15 June 2013 (UTC)רסטיניאק

At the top right of the screen is a "Contributions" link, which shows all the pages you have edited recently. The second line is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Michal Rovner, the page you are looking for. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:38, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Rafael Nadal

I posted these concerns regarding Rafael Nadal at the BLP noticeboard about 48 hours ago, yet have received no responses. It would be appreciated if some editors could please help on this. It's not a complex issue at all; just some content in the personal life section that I feel should be reviewed. I'm confident that editors will agree that most, if not all, of it should be removed. The last part of my BLPN post (about Nadal's car) was submitted as an edit request on the article's talk page a few days ago by another editor, and has also not been replied to. Thanks! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 15:02, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request.

Done Mlpearc (powwow) 15:19, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Mlpearc, thank you so much for taking care of the car content. But can you or any other edtiors please help with the two other concerns that I expressed at BLPN - regarding Nadal's parents and girlfriend - which have not been replied to in days. Thanks, again! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 17:06, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not have the experience to help with those matters, your post at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard would seem to be your best bet. Cheers, Mlpearc (powwow) 17:47, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Unfortunately, my concerns have gone ignored at BLPN for days. That's why I'm hoping someone here with BLP expertise can help. Thanks for the update! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 18:20, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

problem with my article

I need help in my article.the matter i copieed is from my own website.wtitten by me only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tukai11071985 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

You don't say what help you need. However, if the article is from your own web site, written by you, then it is likely to be deleted unless it cites reliable sources and is free of conflict of interest. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:58, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

The article you created at articles for creation had two problems. The one you seem to be referring to here is that it was found to be a copyright violation. That is fixable by releasing the copyright on the website to a compatible license. The other problem is harder. The article reads like an advertisement, but that isn't surprising since a website is supposed to promote what the website is about. Wikipedia is different, this site is an encyclopedia and all articles need to be written in a neutral tone. Even if you do release the copyright on the text from the website it still would not be appropriate because of the advertising language. GB fan 20:28, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Author

How do I find the author of a article in Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.118.55.97 (talk) 20:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Which article? Although each article is created (started) by one editor, most articles have multiple volunteers - often hundreds or even thousands - who edit them. Click "View history" at the top right corner of the article to see which editors have contributed to the article. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 21:00, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

If you are trying to cite Wikipedia as a source, see WP:Citing Wikipedia. Dismas|^(talk) 23:02, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Make document

How can make document and public it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renosmetal (talk • contribs) 20:58, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Do not understand what you are asking. Please explain more clearly. Thanks. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 21:01, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

If you are asking how to create a new article, please see Wikipedia:Your first article. Otherwise yes, please explain a bit more about what you want to do. - Ka renjc 22:17, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

david harris "weissman" designer

somebody is being very malicious and trying to delete the page that was so graciously written about me.they are using a program called speedy deletion.I I am surprised that someone with bad intentions can just delete a Wikipedia page but it appears that this is being done please do not delete the David Harris Weissman designer article. Sincerely Yours, David Harris — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.39.237 (talk) 21:57, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. This is not a 'program', but a process to determine whether articles should be deleted. I can't find the article in question with the information you've provided, so I can't say why the deletion is being proposed: I see no reason to assume it is malicious however. I suggest that you take a look at our policies regarding notability and sourcing, as these are most likely to be the issues raised. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:11, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Is this about David Harris (designer)? That article was deleted in August 2012 at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Harris (designer), and it wasn't with the speedy deletion process. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:46, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Interesting - when one does a Google search on "David Harris Weissman Wikipedia", the top result is this (I've provided the cached version, from Amazon, of that result). The Google summary text for that result is "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion ...". That doesn't explain the "speedy" part of the question, but it does explain why someone might think the article still exists somewhere on Wikipedia. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:58, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

"Not in citation given". Says it all, really... AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:09, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

June 16

Hungarians in Australia

I refer to the WP article titled " Hungarians in Australia". I noticed a technical problem following 2 addition entries of mine. I did not cause the few irregularities nor can I fix them, hence my reporting of it for correction by the savvy. My latest 1st addition: (Dr. Steven Salamon) and the 2nd addition (mention of his Order of Australia & its post nominal AM as a minor edit that was omitted in the earlier 1st entry) were automatically entered correctly into the names list appearing in the actual Article following the normal Edit process. However, when cross checking the Edit side names against the names appearing in the Article, I noted 2 omissions and 1 out of place referencing that came about automatically. Imre Salusinszky & John Saunders (omissions in the Article but not in the Edit side ) and Gisella Scheinberg (duplication in the Article and also her referencing is tagged to the end of Steven Salamon's in the actual Article. If one attempts to remove this misplaced referencing, the Article automatically omits the full entry for Gisella Scheinberg in the Article. Unfortunately the volunteer response team From whom I sought correction are unable to make the required amendments to the Article. They wrote back : "- If you ask your question on the help desk <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HD> someone should be able to help you sort it out". Please help, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Attilaurm (talk • contribs) 02:32, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I see the problem: You have some mismatched <ref>...</ref> tags. A good number of them, actually. You have to take care with those, because they can really bugger things up. Just make sure that you always use both <ref> and </ref>. Never use one without the other, unless it ends in a slash: <ref />. I’ll go through and clean them up now. —Frungi (talk) 04:29, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

British actress Stepanie Cole

To Whom It May Concern, Just wanted to let you know that Ms. Coles appearance as guest star on " Fresh Fields" is not documented on the wiki reference site for her. Thanks, Becci — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.197.239.252 (talk) 02:59, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

As you can see, the table in Stephanie Cole only has ten entries, most of which mention significant roles in her career. It's not intended that it be an exhaustive list. If you feel that an appearance in a single episode of a long-running sitcom deserves to be added to the list, feel free to add it in yourself. Rojomoke (talk) 04:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Hatnotes regarding "XXX redirects here"

Is there a way to make a hatnote such as

"f(x)" redirects here. For the band, see f(x) (band).

in the article Function (mathematics) appear only if the user reaches the article over said redirect? One possibility is to make f(x) a disambiguation page, but in most cases a user entering "f(x)" would be looking for Function (mathematics), not for f(x) (band), so "f(x)" should preferably indeed be a redirect. Isheden (talk) 08:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Not possible. A page (or template) cannot know where you came from. — Edokter (talk) — 09:56, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

reverse discrimination

the article clearly promotes and justifies reverse discrimination against white males because, well, they are white males..........

change it.

unless of course, you are in favor of discrimination against white males.............

which makes you just as bad as as all of the assholes that made this fucking world such a bad place to live in.

I am tired of being a white born male, I think I shall commit suicide, because I am a white male...................................................................................................,,........,,,.,,,,,,,,,,.............

This help desk is here to tell you how to use and edit Wikipedia. In this case the way to use and edit Wikipedia is to discuss your concerns on the article talk page, Talk:Reverse discrimination. —teb728 t c 08:55, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Popagami

Hello! Popagami has now been in the public domain for over 5 years, yet not anything on Wiki. It has been seen on BBC2's Dragons' Den, named as a Best book for Christmas 2012 in The Independent and now recently was seen at The British Soap Awards 2013 (both awards event and the after party event). Popagami(R) is the registered brand name for Pop-ettes Ltd and Ettes Publishing (Popagami Books). Ettesification(R) is the process by which these designs are made.

See www.popagami.com

http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Popagami-Pack-Philip-Craik/dp/1908651024/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1371375435&sr=1-3 http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Popagami-Animal-Activities-Book/dp/1908651008/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1371375517&sr=1-1&keywords=popagami

The author of these titles is Philip Craik

Can the following article in About.Com be used on Wiki?

link

Can pages be created for: Popagami Ettesification and the author Philip Craik?

Brian (creator of Popagami - penname Philip Craik) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popagami (talk • contribs) 09:49, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia's notability criteria for books and authors are here: WP:NBOOK and WP:AUTHOR.

WP:Requested articles is the place to ask for a new article if you don't want to write it yourself however I would strongly recommend checking the notability criteria first. CaptRik (talk) 11:49, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

tablette arcos

bonjour pourriez vous me renseignier j ai recus un meail sur ma tablette depuis ce moment je ne sais plus m en servir elle me marque que suite a un meail reçumon pocesseur ç est aretter inopinément je ne sais plus rien faire avec je suis gravement malade pourrier vous m aider pour remettre mon prosesseur enroute merci — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.68.225.159 (talk) 11:20, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

(Translated by Google - still difficult to interpret) hello could you tell me I have Receipts renseignier a meail on my shelf since then I do not know m use it strikes me that following a meail reçumon pocesseur ç is aretter unexpectedly I do not know how I am with you seriously ill Pourrier help me to put my prosesseur enroute thank you

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. CaptRik (talk) 11:44, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Ceci est la page pour des questions sur l'utilisation de Wikipedia en anglais, c-a-d l'encyclopedie que tous peuvent modifier. Personne ici ne peut vous aider avec votre tablette. Désolé. --ColinFine (talk) 18:06, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Here is a link to the French Wikipedia help desk: [2]. Don't know if that's the right place for this particular question, but at least there someone might be able to point in the right direction. RudolfRed (talk) 19:25, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Things are not helped by the OP's poor spelling and lack of any punctuation. Perhaps a better translation (but still imperfect and some guesswork) would help:

Hello, could you help me. I received an email on my tablet and since that moment I cannot use it. It strikes me that following an email received my processor has stop unexpectedly. I do not know anything to do with it. I am seriously ill. Could you help me fix my processor. Thank you

Astronaut (talk) 19:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

And maybe the product is the Archos tablet. The company has a support site in French. Maybe the OP will have better luck there, but they would need to supply more detail than "an email broke my tablet". Astronaut (talk) 19:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Never ceases to amaze me the number of people who say they are ill when asking for technical help. Astronaut (talk) 19:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Edits in article namespace

Is there any easy/quick way to know how many you have? — Ginsuloft (talk) 14:01, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Go to your contributions page and then all the way at the bottom is a link to "Edit count" That will break down your edits by namespace. GB fan 14:06, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

If you want to get your edit count without using the toolserver go to your preferences and then click 'view global user info' this will breakdown your edits by wikimedia project and should work faster as you don't have to leave Wikipedia. Falkirks^Talk 16:46, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

...but that doesn't distinguish article edits from, say, user page edits. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:48, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

There is no "Edit count" link at the bottom of my contributions page, where did it go? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Looking for a talk page template

I remember that there's a talk page template banner that has a message along the words of "For questions about this page, see these editors" or something like that. I have tried to find this template, but neither Wikipedia Search nor Google turn up any results. Does anybody know the name of this template? APerson241 (talk) 14:21, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Could be {{Maintained}} -- John of Reading (talk) 14:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

source

can we add court judgement as source in WP article?TY of ^Walk 16:28, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

It would depend on the circumstances - but in general, we avoid using such documents, as primary sources often needing interpretation by qualified persons. If you have a specific issue regarding the use of such material, ask at WP:RSN, being sure to provide all the necessary information. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:33, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I will say that court documents can and should (in my opinion) be used for basic facts on the case - ~~who was lawyering (if that's a word), for which side~~, the verdict/outcome, simple things that are black and white. But remember that you cannot give any opinions or derivations from the material, we can only say what's in the source. Charmlet (talk) 00:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Please do not take Charmlet's advice regarding this, if the material in question relates to any living person, as this is contrary to policy. See WP:BLPPRIMARY, "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person". AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I had a hunch I was remembering that wrong. Thanks for the correction. However, things that aren't BLP related, such as dates of trials etc. should be fine to source to court documents, as long as they aren't controversial. It's the same as other primary sources, governed by WP:PRIMARY. Charmlet (talk) 00:54, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

No, "dates of trials etc" are still covered. They are 'assertions' - and WP:BLP policy doesn't make exceptions for 'non controversial' things. WP:PRIMARY does not apply. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:59, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

BLP policy only applies to BLPs. Thus, BLPPRIMARY doesn't apply unless they're used to support BLP claims. The date of a case is not a BLP issue. If it's controversial, defer to non-primary sources, but if it's uncontroversial, a primary source can be used. You miss the part where it specifies that the 'assertions' must be about living people. Charmlet (talk) 01:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

BLP policy does not only apply to BLPs. It applies to any material relating to living persons on Wikipedia, whether in a biography, other article, or indeed on a talk page. I suggest that before you offer further misleading 'help' to others here you familiarise yourself with policy. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Umm, if you're claiming that a court document may not be used to establish who the parties in the case were, you're the wikilawyer. Problematic use of primary sources consists largely of people making interpretations from the sources. When you use an official court document as evidence that so-and-so was a lawyer in the suit and that the suit was heard on X day, you're simply using common sense, and someone who uses BLPPRIMARY to suppress that kind of thing is preventing you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia. Quoting basic undisputed facts is not a problem, and if you question the accuracy of something that the court document gives as a basic undisputed fact, you need to question the court instead of the editor who used the court's statement. Nyttend (talk) 02:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The policy says what the policy says. As for WP:IAR, it is pointless invoking it for hypotheticals. As I said in my first reply, if TY has a specific issuer regarding this issue, WP:RSN is the place to raise it. Meanwhile, I see no reason to leave misleading statements regarding policy unresponded to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:38, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Then I'll respond to this one as well, as it's misleading. BLPPRIMARY only applies to living person related things. You can't use BLPPRIMARY to say that all primary sources are bad all the time, nor that court documents are bad all the time. Just because it's specified there means that it shouldn't be used for living person related things (which I corrected in my reply). But court documents can and should be used for facts as possible per WP:PRIMARY, the governing ideology over non-BLP primary source usage. Charmlet (talk) 02:48, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

BLPs when I said it = living persons. I never said it only related to articles. And you know, you didn't refute the basis of my reply - A court date is not something covered by the BLP policy. Nor is location, court circuit/district, etc. For those things, WP:PRIMARY applies. Charmlet (talk) 02:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Producer Article

Hey my name is DeAngelis Marshall, I am a producer in alot of networks. I recently created a user account. Me not being the most internet savy could not understand how to start a article about myself. I wanna create on about me similar to wale or a album page. Thanks [Contact details redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeAngelis000 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Please read WP:Autobiography before you try to write an article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:45, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Image file deletion

Hi, how do I discover whether a particular image file (JPG) ever existed on Wikipedia and, if it existed, why it was deleted? 86.160.210.203 (talk) 19:46, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Every time I search for an image that doesn't exist it takes me to the upload form. If it was deleted here then there was probably a good reason. You may be best off looking at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page where most images are stored. The only ones that should be hosted here are non-free or copyright protected in the source countries.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:18, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

If you know the exact name of the image, you can check the Wikipedia deletion log (Example search) and the Commons deletion log (Example search). -- John of Reading (talk) 20:44, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Canoe1967, how do you search for an image when you are taken to the upload form? For me that only happens when I click a red file link on a rendered wiki page with code to display the non-existing file. If I use the search form, for example on File:Vmiflag.PNG, then I can click the red link [3] on the search page and see the deletion log. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:09, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

That is what I meant. When I click a read link for a .jpg in an article it takes me to the upload form. When red links are clicked for articles they go to the deleted/creation warning page. I never thought to search the deletion logs for .jpgs. I usually just find or create a new one to replace them, assuming they were deleted for good reasons.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:25, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Antonescu

ok, cretinilor, Antonescu nu s-a nascut la 15 iunie si nici nu a murit pe 1 uinie, mai studiati istoria si documentele — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2F0C:302F:FFFF:0:0:BC19:8DFB (talk) 23:16, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

(Google translate) "OK, cretins, Antonescu was born on 15 June and died not one NICU, most studied history and documents"

I think this is a comment about Ion Antonescu - the birth date in our article is different from the one in the Romanian Wikipedia. This may be a confusion about the Gregorian and Julian calendars - see Talk:Ion Antonescu/Archive 7#Date of birth: which calendar?. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

June 17

Create a new cite

How do I add/make a subject? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omidnight (talk • contribs) 00:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

If you are asking how to create a new encyclopedia article on Wikipedia, reading Wikipedia:Your first article would be a good start. —teb728 t c 00:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Article submission

I received an email from you saying my submission on Pentacost wasn't verifiable. I have never made a submission so your email should have gone to another person. I think their email is included in the email you sent me. Best of luck - I love your site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.226.124.158 (talk) 00:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

It was likely meant for someone else who uses your IP address. It was also from May 2012. Feel free to ignore it. CTF83! 01:07, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Difference?

what is diffrence b/w accessdate and date in cite_web template e.g {{cite news|last=Neeraja|first=Sangeetha|title=Aam Aadmi Party bats for the right to reject|url=http://newindianexpress.com/cities/bangalore/Aam-Aadmi-Party-bats-for-the-right-to-reject/2013/05/02/article1570611.ece|newspaper=The New Indian Express|accessdate=31 December 2004|date=2 May 2013}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThinkingYouth (talk • contribs)

The "date" parameter is the date the article was published, in this case 2 May 2013. The "accessdate" parameter is the date the article was viewed and added to the article (since websites often change or move, knowing when a page was accessed allows reader to view the page exactly as it was when it was used as a reference - in theory anyway). In the example you've given, the access date is likely to be wrong; I can't see how someone could view a 2013 article in 2004... Yunshui 雲‍水 08:30, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

One could easier verify that if OP gives an article name, where the template was found. --CiaPan (talk) 08:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

It's in the Aam Aadmi Party article. Given that the party has only existed since 2012, and the article is only a few months old, the accessdate is clearly wrong - since I've just verified that the information in the source verifies the article text, I've updated the accessdate to today. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you .TY of ^Walk 09:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Per the template documentation:

accessdate Full date when original URL was accessed; use the same format as other access and archive dates in the citations; do not wikilink. Not required for web pages or linked documents that do not change; mainly of use for web pages that change frequently or have no publication date. Can be hidden or styled by registered editors.

-- Gadget850^talk 16:44, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Page not working

Duckworth–Lewis method

This page is not working — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.80.48.6 (talk) 08:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Seems fine to me - what isn't working? What do you see when you try to view the page? Yunshui 雲‍水 09:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

2013 chrysler 300

In a 2013 chrysler 300 will the engine shut off if the key I s not in or near the car? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.200.25.133 (talk) 09:46, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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reliable source for a biography of a living person

@been trying to update new article -Lior Varona. the last message from Wikipedia is: June 2013[edit] Hello, I'm BracketBot. I have automatically detected that your edit to LIOR VARONA may have broken the syntax by modifying 2 "[]"s. If you have, don't worry, just edit the page again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on my operator's talk page.

List of unpaired brackets remaining on the page: Since 2006, he is the Director General of the [[Cellular Companies Forum in Israel]¹. Hebrew University Student Union and between the years 1999-2000, as the Chairman of the [[National Union of Israeli Students]². Thanks, BracketBot (talk) 08:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Although I did everything I was asked to do' this artical has not yet been confirmed.

I'd love your help Mokedcellular (talk) 10:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)mokedcellularMokedcellular (talk) 10:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I have done a few minor edits, mostly removing scare quotes and fixing wikilinks. I do not know what you mean by "this artical has not yet been confirmed". Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Is the issue about being "confirmed" due to warning "Article is an orphan"? -Wikid77b (talk) 12:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Restoring article on Lieutenants of the Tower

There has been a brief discussion here [4] about whether the original article on the Lieutenants of the Tower should be restored (if there was one). During the Tudor period there were two separate offices, Constable of the Tower and Lieutenant of the Tower, and the current redirect from Lieutenant of the Tower to the article on the Constables of the Tower is thus misleading. Was there an original article on the Lieutenants of the Tower which could be restored, or would one have to create an entirely new article, and if so, how could that be done in view of the current redirect? NinaGreen (talk) 15:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

This indicates that there has never been an article entitled "Lieutenant of the Tower of London"; it's always been a redirect, so there's no article to restore. To change the redirect into an article, simply start click this special link Lieutenant of the Tower of London and start editing. Alternatively, type "Lieutenant of the Tower of London" into the search bar or click Lieutenant of the Tower of London, then at the top of Constable of the Tower, click on the link in (Redirected from Lieutenant of the Tower of London). Bencherlite ^Talk 15:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm still a bit uncertain how to proceed. When I click on the special link you mention above, it takes me to [5], and if I then click on Edit, it takes me to this [6], which shows a redirect notice, i.e. #REDIRECT Constable of the Tower. Should I just delete that redirect notice, and then start editing? NinaGreen (talk) 16:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, deleting the redirect notice will turn it into an ordinary page. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:24, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I've created the article. NinaGreen (talk) 18:24, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

please check for me c.k no of karan beef security

karan beef security c.k no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.73.189.176 (talk) 17:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Please explain better, do not abreviate. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

This is the help desk for asking questions about editing and finding your way around Wikipedia. Knowledge questions should be directed to the reference desk. However, a quick Google search suggests that a ck number is an "enterprise number" connected with the official registration of businesses in South Africa. Here is a link to the results when you search the website of the Companies and Intellectual Property Commission for "Karan Beef". "Karan Beef Security" returns no results. Hope this helps. - Ka renjc 19:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

http://www.karanbeef.co.za/ Seems it is a type of beef and the OP may be wondering about security relating to it. Can anyone translate "c.k no"? --Canoe1967 (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

See my reply directly above. A CK number is a company registration number in South Africa. It's named after the CK7 and CK 1 forms you have to complete in order to register (mentioned here.) My earlier link goes to the page displaying Karan Beef's CK number. (edited to include reference to CK1 form as well as CK7) - Ka renjc 22:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Eleni Foureira Article

Dear Editors of Wikipedia, I recently came across the English version of the Wikipedia article about a Greek singer called "Eleni Foureira" and I would like to report that some of the information provided is unfortunately invalid. To be more spesific, it is clearly mentioned that the singer is of Albanian origin, which does not correspond to the truth. These claims were based on a humouristic article of an Albanian editor, written in Greek language and it simply comments on some gossips around the Greek media. Foureira herself has mentioned that she comes from Greece and that she was bron in Kallithea, Athens. Her name is just of Latin origin beacause her grandfather was of Mexican origin. So I would like the article to be modified and I would also like to ask your editors to do more specific research before writing articles in such a popular online encyclopedia. Thank you beforehand. Yours faithfully, Eustathe Efstathiou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eustathe Efstathiou (talk • contribs) 17:51, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

If you have reliable sources please fix it yourself.--ukexpat (talk) 17:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Tool to complete cite templates?

Does anyone have some type of tool that can fix and complete all the cites at Black Forest fire that are only partially filled-in? Some do not have the name(s) of the writer or date of the story, etc.; only the retrieved date. And many have the wrong date format - for example, 2013-06-16 instead of June 16, 2013. (The article is about a U.S. event.) Thanks! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 18:11, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

There probably is a tool, but there are only 21 references in that short article and they cover just a small range of dates. Probably easier to do by hand. Astronaut (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

In fact, just done it. Astronaut (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Haha, changed your mind, huh? I see you fixed the existing dates to properly format them. Thanks! But I was also hoping that someone could complete all the incomplete cites - the ones that do not credit the writer(s) of the story and/or do not include the date the story was published, etc. Thanks, again. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 19:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

With regard to dates, there are solutions (not needed now, of course): Wikipedia:Date formattings#Tools.

With regards to cites, there are tools that take naked urls and do their best - see User:Citation bot/use, for example. But I don't know of any tool that can handle partial cites, particularly since those are unlikely to use {{cite web}} or similar templates, and thus it's not going to be obvious (to a bot) what is a title, what is an author, etc. So you end up doing manual work, either way. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:46, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

math

suppose it is known that in a certain population 10 percent of population is colour blind. if a random sample of 25 people is drawn from this population find the probability that thee or fewer will be colour blind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.23.105.113 (talk) 18:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.
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Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Haha. That's a good template, John. But for some reason, I feel bad for the kid. :p --76.189.109.155 (talk) 19:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Probability may help.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The scary thing is that I was able to find the answer out on the web in less than 90 seconds of work.Naraht (talk) 20:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Funny. Hey, are kids in India in school during the summer? Maybe s/he's just interested in math. ;) --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Black Forest fire

I asked a question above about completing the cites at Black Forest fire, but I have a concern about the overall format of the article. Is it appropriate to have an article about an event in which a new section is created literally every day to detail the information for that day only? As you'll see, each section heading is "(month/day/year/day of the week)". It seems like a clear violation of WP:NOTDIARY, but perhaps there's precedent for doing it this way. But shouldn't it just be written in typical article style instead of having a daily "play-by-play" format? --76.189.109.155 (talk) 19:11, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

When the fire is over there may be editors who want to restructure the article but date headings aren't uncommon for this type of event. It looks OK to me but I have shortened "June 11, 2013 (Tuesday)" to "June 11" and so on.[7] We don't have to repeat the year every day, and we usually don't give both date and day of the week. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:28, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

PH, thanks for the attention to my concern. I see that you just made this edit, in which, as you explained, you removed the year and day of the week from the section headings, but left the month and day. I appreciate the improvement you made, which is certainly better than what it replaced. However, I still must ask if having daily section headings is proper (even in the early days of an article's development)? It seems very odd. And some sections only have a couple sentences. You said, "date headings aren't uncommon for this type of event". Is there precedent for it? And can you please provide wikilinks to a few other event articles that do this? I'd also appreciate feedback from other editors on this matter, as well. Thank you very much. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 19:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The lead links to Waldo Canyon fire. Another example: 2010 Russian wildfires. For a similar type of multi-day event: April 2010 tornado outbreak, Late-May 2010 tornado outbreak, April 25–28, 2011 tornado outbreak, March 18–24, 2012 tornado outbreak sequence, April 13–16, 2012 tornado outbreak, and so on. It's also common for some sport events, for example tennis Grand Slams: 2012 Wimbledon Championships, 2012 US Open (tennis), 2013 Australian Open, 2013 French Open. WP:NOTDIARY is mainly about people, but we do have articles like Timeline of the presidency of Barack Obama (2012). PrimeHunter (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

PH, thanks for providing the links. The Russian wildfires one is a very good, comparable example. A number of the other ones are different in terms of format and purpose. The sports ones aren't really applicable comparisons because they obviously need to give daily results. The tornado ones use daily tables to show the movement of the storms. And the timeline articles obviously have to use a, er, timeline format. Haha. Do you know of any other wildfire articles, besides the 2010 Russian one, that use a new date section heading every day of the event? Thanks for your effort on this! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Lockheed Fire is an extreme example I don't recommend. Most wildfire articles are so brief that a subdivision by date wouldn't make much sense. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Wow, "extreme" is an understatment. Haha. Nice find. The entire layout of that article is just... wrong. :p The headings, times, bullet points, etc... not good. For now, I removed the year from the headings. I have to admit, seeing that article made me laugh. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

setting up a page

i have been trying to set up a page for a composer, Fast Forward, and have been getting no help from wikipedia...i want to being the page with basic info and then let others expand on it..BUT I CAN'T GET THE PAGE APPROVED....please help me expedite this, thank you, John King — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.12.15.191 (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I assume this is the article in question: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Fast Forward. Please see Wikipedia:Notability (people), and in particular Wikipedia:Notability (music). You need to provide evidence from third party published sources that Fast Forward meets our notability guidelines - the only reference you have provided is to his own website, which is unacceptable for such purposes. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Also seems to be a conflict of interest situation involving John King (submitter) and Fast Forward (subject) - see this page, for example. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:49, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

It does seem to be a reliable sources issue. The notability may be there but trying to Google sources with such a common phrase makes it difficult. Feeding Frenzy may be more worthy of an article but has same problem with Google searches.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Interesting... not only was the article completely unsourced (other than an external link, disguised as a reference, to the subject's own website), it didn't even include the subject's real name. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

When he changed his name to Fast Forward it seems he doesn't want his birth name known.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps we do know what his birth name is. ;) We include the birth names of all notable people who are known publicly by a stage name. But of course the primary problem here is that there are no reliable sources to prove notability. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:37, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ There is probably a name change document somewhere that a secondary source would have to publish before we can use it. I can't see any valid reason to include it. Reader curiosity maybe but if it very common like John Smith then it would just fill up our John Smith dab page with another entry. A rose by any other name is still a rose. The ethno-taggers may get frustrated that he can't be added to any of the ethic categories and may scour RS to find it though. The subject himself may have supply an article with a reliable source like a major newspaper to get the article accepted. The draft is still in talk page space so I don't know how he can provide COI input as the talk page is the normal place for COI input.--Canoe1967 (talk) 20:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, I think this is a dead issue for now. John King/50.12.15.191 came here for one purpose: to get our help to "expedite" getting the article approved. Based on all of the above, that's clearly not going to happen. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 21:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

tango/canyengue

Luís Grondona died in Buenos Aires during the first half of September 2012. After studying canyengue with him & Marta Anton, he became a personal friend of mine. He had suffered two strokes over the previous years & never quite recovered. I used to visit him at the casa geriátrica on calle Brasil where he spent his last days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.236.14.34 (talk) 20:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm guessing that the comment is with regards to Argentine tango#Tango canyengue, where Grondona is listed but is not shown as "deceased".

I did a quick Google news search without any results, but perhaps there is more information (a source would be great) at another language Wikipedia, if indeed he is deceased? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:01, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

He is pictured and mentioned here as deceased ("fallecido") in September 2012, but I'm not sure it's a reliable enough source. - Ka renjc 22:35, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

highest grossing films list

In the list of highest grossing films of all time, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is listed multiple times as Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.112.75.238 (talk) 21:43, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

If you read the article for the book, you'll see that "Philosopher's" is the original title. Dismas|^(talk) 21:45, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Right. The title in List of highest-grossing films was changed so many times that the wiki source now says:

"

''[[Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (film)|Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone]]''<!-- The international film title and the article name is "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone". Do NOT change to the US and India only title "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" -->

"

PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

de:wp question

Does de:wp have a parallel page to WP:AFC? We've got a babel link to it, but the link is completely unrelated; it goes to de:Wikipedia:Größenvergleich, a statistics page analogous to Wikipedia:Size comparisons. Nyttend (talk) 21:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Almost certainly not, but if you want a definitive answer, you might want to post at User talk:Jan eissfeldt. He's the author of Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2011-09-26/Opinion essay, from which I infer that he's fairly knowledgeable about what goes on at de:wp. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Search result returned for something that doesn't exist

If I search for "And was digitally released on June" including the quotation marks, a result for Who's My Bitch (Paradiso Girls song) is returned. But this string has never existed on that page. What's going on? Is this a bug? Thanks! SomeFreakOnTheInternet (talk) 21:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The search page for "And was digitally released on June" says "3 July 2010" for the hit on Who's My Bitch (Paradiso Girls song). Today it's a redirect but on that date it did indeed contain the quoted string. The article was deleted 5 July 2010 [8] so the real question is why results from a page deleted 3 years ago is appearing in searches. I suspect it has something to do with the only edit after the deletion being the creation of a redirect (24 May 2012). PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

This is potentially serious. I have copied the above to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Article deleted in 2010 appears in search. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Red-linked category leading to fully populated category

Category:Articles with Norwegian-language external links is fully populated, but shows up as a red link. Thanks in advance. XOttawahitech (talk) 22:19, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I have created the category page. If a category hasn't been created then it will show pages in the category anyway. It may sound odd but it's very practical. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Category:Articles with Norwegian language external links (no hyphen) already existed but hyphens are being added now. It's done by changing a template [9] so the new category was automatically populated. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Lexington, Tennessee

The article on Lexington TN says that it is the barbecue capital of the country with more barbeque restaurants per capita than any other city in the US. I have heard and believe by personal observation that these two statements are correct for Lexington NC not Lexington TN. (I have spent much time in Lexington NC but have never been to Lexington TN.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.183.20.25 (talk) 23:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we cannot go by what you've heard or believe. Content must be reliably sourced for verification. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 23:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The article has a reference for Lexington, TN. It had gone dead but I have updated it [10] with [11]. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that the source is the city's own website. Many cities make many claims about being the biggest, the best, or the first, etc. at something, which causes other cities to dispute those claims. This needs a reliable (secondary) source, so I've added a primary source tag to the sentence. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 23:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The city website cites writer Terry Mancour who is apparently not from the city. Mancour's statement is mentioned in many places. [12] appears to contain Mancour's original text: "adherents to the Western style gather yearly at the Lexington Barbecue Festival to celebrate the pork shoulder/tomato sauce style in Lexington, North Carolina – a town that boasts twenty barbecue restaurants to service 17,000 people (only Lexington, Tennessee, with ten restaurants for 6,000 people has more barbecue restaurants per capita)." If we believe him then Lexington, North Carolina may be better known barbecue but Lexington, Tennessee has the record for restaurants per capita. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not saying the claims aren't accurate, but that a reliable source is needed. You linked to the website of a barbeque catering business, which linked to their own blog story written by Mancour. A restaurant or catering website is not a reliable source. Nor, as I said, is a city's own website that claims to hold a certain national title or record. So it comes down to this... we have no idea who Terry Mancour is (it doesn't matter where he's from), and most importantly, a reliable source is needed for verification. For the record, the text you presented is a good indication that these claims are suspicious and perhaps bogus. As you said, it sounds like Lexington, North Carolina, is more the barbeque capital than Lexington, Tennessee. But Tennessee is using this odd, random "per capita" measurement to proclaim themselves the "barbeque capital of the country". And both cities are relatively small (7,000 and 21,000 people), so I'll bet there are a number of other cites making the same claims. This is a great example of why we need solid, reliable sources for cities claiming they are the best, the biggest or the first, etc. at something. Interestingly, Lexington, North Carolina, makes no claims about their barbeque status. Haha. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 00:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The restaurant quoted Mancour's text from "North Carolina Barbecue: a Primer". I don't know how reliable it is but it wasn't written for and didn't mention the restaurant. Lexington, North Carolina#Barbecue says: Lexington calls itself the "Barbecue Capital of North Carolina. The city source http://visitlexingtonnc.com/ actually goes further and says: Many states have towns named “Lexington”, but only one claims to be the “Barbecue Capital of the World”. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:34, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Interesting. Well, I'm all barbequed out. How about you? All we know for sure about this is that we don't know anything for sure. Haha. Btw, I just noticed that an admin (Orange Mike) made this edit about the barbeque claims in the lead, shortly after your last comment. I think his edit is great; it proves that adding a few key words can really make a positive difference. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 03:11, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Update: I relocated the barbeque content from the lead to a more appropriate section. The claims are not only disputed and questionable, but that information was not even lead-worthy to begin with (even if true). As I said in my edit summary, it perhaps should even be removed from the article altogether, but I'll leave that to other edtiors to decide. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 03:36, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

June 18

Multiple articles on same topic

I noticed that there were 2 different articles on the same person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taalat_Fouad_Qassem & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tal%27at_Fu%27ad_Qasim I don't know what the proper procedure is to handle this kind of problem. Thanks. David O. Johnson (talk) 02:52, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Those two pages should be merged. Look at Wikipedia:MERGE for how to start the process. RudolfRed (talk) 04:15, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Need help with "ifexist"

Hello, I'm asking this question here, because I didn't get any answer on fi-wiki, and I guess that here is more users who knows about this kind of things.

So, we have a template fi:Malline:GrandSlamKaaviot which is the same as Template:Infobox Tennis Grand Slam events. Problem with the fi-wiki template is that we have to make always redirects to get this work.

This is how it's in en-wiki:
{{ #ifexist: {{{1}}} {{{2}}} – Men's Singles |[[{{{1}}} {{{2}}} – Men's Singles|men]] | ''men'' }}
This is how it's in fi-wiki:
{{ #ifexist: {{{1}}} {{{2}}} – Miesten kaksinpeli |[[{{{1}}} {{{2}}} – Miesten kaksinpeli|miehet]] | ''miehet'' }}

But in fi-wiki we have articles like "Miesten kaksinpeli Australian avoimessa tennisturnauksessa 2013" so we have to make a redirect page from Australian avoin tennisturnaus 2013 – Miesten kaksinpeli to the link above to get this link showing in the template.

So, now the function {{ #ifexist: {{{1}}} {{{2}}} – Miesten kaksinpeli |[[{{{1}}} {{{2}}} – Miesten kaksinpeli|miehet]] | ''miehet'' }} should someway to get print the following way: {{ #ifexist: Miesten kaksinpeli [here should be some function which uses one of the following lines:

Australian avoimessa tennisturnauksessa
Ranskan avoimessa tennisturnauksessa
Wimbledonin tennisturnauksessa
Yhdysvaltain avoimessa tennisturnauksessa {{{2}}}|miehet]] | ''miehet'' }}

Thanks! --Stryn (talk) 04:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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