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User:Casliber/Stub contest

Right, am thinking of running a de-stubbing contest at User:Casliber/Stub contest (in the vein of the Core Contest), just as a one off alternative and see how it goes - similar prizes. Discuss on talk page. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:35, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

No women allowed?

Just to let you know I have posted a question at: Category_talk:Indonesian_people_stubs#Only a man? XOttawahitech (talk) 05:22, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

It would likely be best placed at Template talk:Indonesia-bio-stub, as it is about the template, or even better, right here, since it is not specific to the Indonesian template. - Nabla (talk) 15:05, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Stub Contest starting in a few days - could benefit from someone keen on assessing articles to be a judge. Anyone wanna help judge whether articles are stubs or not? see Wikipedia talk:Stub Contest, cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:57, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


Alamukii is a traditional name that comes from the so called Yoruba entity in the 16th century.This names is invented by the great great grand father of the Alamukii family who believe in their faith of their only creator (God). Alamukii is just a name but it was associated with the believe and faith in the creator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alamukii (talkcontribs) 22:10, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


FYI, someone has proposed replacing Template:Incomplete (|talk|history|links|watch|logs) with {{stub}}, see the TFD discussion for details. -- (talk) 03:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Embassies etc

Any thoughts on the best stub type for Ambassadors, High Commissions, etc - there are a batch of them in Category:Stubs at the moment and no stub types for international relation, diplomacy, etc. Some could be "{{London-struct-stub}}" etc, or {{job-stub}} for the Ambassadors but that doesn't seem ideal. PamD 16:06, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

There's a bot out there ...

Did any other stub-sorters know that there's an approved bot changing {{stub}} to {{bio-stub}} for articles identified as people? See Category_talk:Stubs#MoohanBOT and my comments at User_talk:Jamesmcmahon0#Your_bot_and_stubs. PamD 14:28, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

New maths stubs - I'd like to create and then add lots of content...

Hi all! :D

I would like to start, and then seriously expand on stubs for a few different mathematical functions, such as the Inverse Tangent Integral - which currently redirects to the Polylogarithm. The latter is seriously cluttered, and contains next to nothing about the Inverse Tangent Integral.

This function really needs it's own page, and if given one, I'm more than capable of fleshing it out quite a bit.

What should I do? Who do I ask...?

All the best!


Dream Weaver1975 (talk) 03:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Probably best to get in touch with Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics - I'm sure they'll be able to point you in the right direction. Severo (talk) 18:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Proposed change to {{popstub}}

What does anyone think about changing {{popstub}} to point to the newer version of catscan? Dawynn (talk) 02:56, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. Aelfthrytha (talk) 00:27, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
It should point to both - frequently, the quicker old tool is enough. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:05, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Redirects to stub categories

Hi, there is a discussion about redirects to stub categories at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2013_December_25#CAT:Novel_stub. Your input would be appreciated. --John Vandenberg (chat) 11:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

That discussion closed with only some deleted.
There is now a redirect being discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 January 11#Template:Portugal-noble-stub. --John Vandenberg (chat) 09:11, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Chromosome 1 gene stubs

Almost all of the Category:Chromosome 1 gene stubs are not stubs at all. They are well documented articles. They should be class=start or class C, and the stub tag should be removed. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:49, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

This is beyond the scope of this WikiProject, which is WikiProject stub sorting. If you think so, feel free to remove the stub tags. Then, if what's left in the category is below 50, feel free to nominate it for upmerging. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:16, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Tagging a template at CFD

As I understand it, since WP:WSS/D was abandoned and the deletion discussion system was moved from WP:SFD to WP:XFD a couple of years back, a stub category and stub template should be discussed together at WP:CFD. I've marked Category:ISRO stubs with {{subst:cfm}}, but what is the template that should be placed on {{ISRO-stub}} to direct users to the CFD page? --Redrose64 (talk) 15:26, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Template:GeorgiaUS-stub and related

Can someone pleasew explain to me why the stub tags for Georgia (U.S. state) are all "GeorgiaUS-", not "Georgia-US-"? Since a GeorgiaUS-foo-stub is a type of US-foo-stub, it seems to me that "Georgia-US-" should be the correct form. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:10, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Compare {{SouthCarolina-stub}} or {{Florida-stub}} which are at the same level as {{GeorgiaUS-stub}}. They do not have "US" in their names; it's only used here because {{Georgia-stub}} doesn't refer to the U.S. state but to the Eurasian country. Kind of like a disambiguator. So, by parallel, we have SouthCarolina-foo-stub, Florida-foo-stub and thus GeorgiaUS-foo-stub. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
The fract that it's a disambiguater doesn't amke it any different than {{bridge-struct-stub}}, where the "struct" is a disambiguater; this is on the same level as {{museum-stub}}. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:11, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to User Study

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Input requested

I opened a thread on WP:PUMP, Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 13#The issue of permanent stubs, & would appreciate further comments. -- llywrch (talk) 21:44, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Stub categories should be hidden

I have proposed that stub categories be changed to hidden categories, in line with other non-topic-specific/project categories. Please contribute to the discussion at Category talk:Stubs. Thanks. SFB 21:30, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

New rock-song-stub and category

{{2010s-rock-song-stub}} and Category:2010s rock song stubs were improperly created as redirects and I'm not sure how to go about adding them as proper stubs or deleting them. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:17, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

In the old days you would list them at WP:WSS/D - but nothing's happened there since August 2012. {{2010s-rock-song-stub}} has been fixed by Fortdj33 (talk · contribs) which I generally agree with under WP:WSS/P#"Speedy creation" S2, but the cat doesn't yet qualify; I think that it's a WP:CFD matter. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:06, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
As Redrose64 mentioned, I re-created the stub tag, which still directs to the parent category, and nominated the sub-category for deletion. However, the creator of both modified them, so that the stub now populates the category. Not sure that there are enough articles to warrant a separate category, but I agree that it's now a WP:CFD matter, since the creator didn't appear to propose why the category was needed. Fortdj33 (talk) 17:37, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
I've just seen this cat/stub at CfD, and I'm puzzled as to why this process of proposals still exists. Anything created in error (either not-needed, or named incorrectly) can be dealt with at CfD. Can someone shed some light on this? Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:55, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
I believe that it still exists to try and keep things tidy, so that established naming conventions are applied and diffusion is not carried out to too fine a level. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks RR. It's kind of a paradox. Experienced editors aren't going to wait 5 days to be told by someone they can create a stub/category, as they know how it works and new editors simply wont know the process exists. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:08, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
When I was a new editor and first came across a stub category, I found the {{WPSS-cat}} template quite helpful. Just by seeing that, I knew there was a procedure to follow for this type of thing. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:37, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
As a non-new editor, do you still raise proposals here? Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 20:34, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Iran film bios

I've found that {{Iran-film-director-stub}} and {{Iran-film-bio-stub}}, despite being closely related (to my mind, a film director is a specialised form of film person) are two levels apart: Category:Iranian people stubs (which contains {{Iran-film-bio-stub}}) → Category:Iranian artist stubsCategory:Iranian film director stubs. Is it normal to have them separated like that? --Redrose64 (talk) 22:13, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be completely consistent, but for the most part it appears that any country with a separate category for film directors, usually has it as a sub-category of "Fooian film biography stubs" (which itself is usually a sub-category of "Fooian people stubs"). If the film biography category doesn't exist, then the director category is usually a sub-category of "Fooian artist stubs". And if the artist category doesn't exist either, then the director category is simply a sub-category of "Fooian people stubs". I agree that some criteria should be agreed upon, to make things more consistent. Fortdj33 (talk) 01:35, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

US county stub tag names

I have found that the stub tagfs related to US counties are inconsistant. Just to take California as an example, we have {{AlamedaCountyCA-geo-stub}} (with the word "County" in it), {{OrangeCA-school-stub}} (without the word "County", but still with the CA), and {{Riverside-school-stub}} (not even a CA - ambiguous, for example, with Riverside, Iowa). I think we should go for a consistant set of names for all US county-related stubs - definitely with the state abbreviation, and probably with the word "County" (since many county names are also names of cities within these counties, such as the 3 mentioned above). And in cases which are ambiguous with locations outside the counties, we should probably update all references and delete the redirect. Anyone else have an opinion here? (Note that I'm excluding cities which are identical with their counties, such as San Francisco, as well as the boroughs of New York City.) עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:20, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Good catch. I agree. I like the idea of the first example; while it can get lengthy (such as "NorthumberlandCountyPA-geo-stub", perhaps?), that method leaves the least amount of room for ambiguity. Or, we could abbrevitate "County" as "Co" (NorthumberlandCoPA-geo-stub). TCMemoire 22:27, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
I think that "County" is clearer, especially since we're using CamelCase. I think that "NorthumberlandCountyPA-geo-stub" is clearer than {{eventoedungulate-stub}}, which has 3 words grouped together with no indication where one ends and the next begins.
By the way, one of the places which is ambiguous with places outside the county would be {{NassauNY-NRHP-stub}}, refering to part of Long Island (south of mainland New York), which is ambiguous with Nassau (town), New York (and Nassau (village), New York, which is part of it), located much farther north within the state. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:27, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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